Relativistic momentum in terms of another relativisic momentum

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Homework Statement:
When the ship passes at velocity V1, the shuttle pilot measures the magnitude of the momentum of the spaceship to be p1.

On a subsequent mission, the spaceship again passes the shuttle, this time at twice the previous velocity, V2 = 2V1 = 0.840c.

The shuttle pilot again measures the momentum of the spaceship. In terms of p1, what is the magnitude of the measured momentum of the spaceship this time?
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The relativistic momentum p of a material particle of mass m and velocity v is defined by the following vector equation:

p=mv/√(1-v^2/c^2 )

The total relativistic energy of a particle m travelling at speed v is given by:

E_tot=(mc^2)/√(1-v^2/c^2) = E_trans+E_mass.

Where:

E_trans = ((mc^2)/(1-v^2/c^2))-mc^2

And

E_mass = mc^2

The relationship between the total relativistic energy and the magnitude of the relativistic momentum can be expressed as:

(E_tot)^2 = p^2c^2+m^2c^4
I feel like this should be pretty straightforward knowing all the equations involved but my brain seems be stalling for some reason.
 

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I feel like this should be pretty straightforward knowing all the equations involved but my brain seems be stalling for some reason.
:welcome:

Time to get your brain into gear! You need to make your best effort before we can help.
 
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Hint. It's a nice algebraic exercise to express ##p_2## in terms of ##p_1##, but you can always do this particular problem numerically.
 
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So far I've solved for p1 (I think) but I can't figure out how to write p2 in terms of p1.

E_tot^2 = (p1^2 c^2) + (m^2 c^4)

p1^2 c^2 = (E_tot^2) - (m^2 c^4)

p1^2 = (E_tot^2 - m^2 c^4) / c^2

p1 = √(E_tot^2 - m^2 c^4 ) / c

Where E_tot = (mc^2) / √(1 - (v^2/c^2) ) = γmc^2

p1 = √((γm^2c^4 ) - (m^2 c^4 )) / c
 
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So far I've solved for p1 (I think) but I can't figure out how to write p2 in terms of p1.

E_tot^2 = (p1^2 c^2) + (m^2 c^4)

p1^2 c^2 = (E_tot^2) - (m^2 c^4)

p1^2 = (E_tot^2 - m^2 c^4) / c^2

p1 = √(E_tot^2 - m^2 c^4 ) / c

Where E_tot = (mc^2) / √(1 - (v^2/c^2) ) = γmc^2

p1 = √((γm^2c^4 ) - (m^2 c^4 )) / c
Isn't ##p_1 = \gamma_1 mv_1##, where ##v_1 = 0.42c##? And ##p_2 = \gamma_2 mv_2##, where ##v_2 = 0.84c##?

Can you just do that numerically (with the ##m## cancelling out)?
 
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PS if you write ##\dfrac {p_2}{p_1} = \dfrac{\gamma_2 mv_2}{\gamma_1 mv_1} = \dfrac{2\gamma_2}{\gamma_1}## I'm not sure that simplifies much further, so you just have to calculate the two gamma factors.
 
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Thank you, I’d overcomplicated it a ridiculous amount because I was rushing 😖 All sorted now 💆🏻‍♂️
 

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