Renormalization Conditions of QED

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The discussion centers on the renormalization conditions of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), specifically focusing on the electric charge renormalization and the implications of on-shell conditions for electron momenta in vertex diagrams. Participants explore theoretical frameworks and renormalization schemes, including dimensional regularization and minimal subtraction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the Lagrangian for QED and questions whether the renormalization condition for the electric charge requires on-shell electrons in addition to the on-shell photon.
  • Another participant notes that QED is renormalizable in the Dyson sense and mentions that counterterms must look like those in the original Lagrangian, emphasizing the importance of gauge invariance and the Ward identity, which implies ##\delta_1=\delta_2##.
  • Some participants highlight that the finite part of the vertex renormalization contributes to the magnetic moment of the electron, referencing historical calculations by Schwinger.
  • A later reply suggests a resource for further reading on renormalization schemes, including mass-independent and on-shell renormalization schemes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of on-shell conditions for electrons in determining the value of the counterterm ##\delta_1##. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these conditions on the renormalization process.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the momenta of electrons in vertex diagrams and the specific definitions of renormalization schemes that may affect the interpretation of the results.

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What is exactly the renormalization condition for the QED vertex?
Hello, I'm studying the renormalization of QED. I have the Lagrangian
$$\mathscr{L}_{QED}=\mathscr{L}_{physical}+\mathscr{L}_{counterterms}$$
where
$$\mathscr{L}_{physical}=-\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}+\bar{\psi}(i\gamma^\mu\partial_\mu - m)\psi - e \bar{\psi}\gamma^\mu\psi A_\mu$$
$$\mathscr{L}_{counterterms}=-\frac{1}{4}\delta_3 F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}+\bar{\psi}(i\delta_2\gamma^\mu\partial_\mu - \delta_m)\psi - e \delta_1\bar{\psi}\gamma^\mu\psi A_\mu$$

with ##\delta_k## the counterterms, fixed by the renormalization conditions.

I don't have problems with the mass and field-strengths renormalization conditions, my problem is with the condition for the electric charge renormalization.
If ##-ie\Gamma^\mu(p', p)## is the amplitude for the 1PI vertex diagrams with ##p'## and ##p## the electron momenta, the renormalization condition is usually stated by imposing that, when the photon is on-shell (##q^2=0##) then this amplitude must reduce to ##\Gamma^\mu = \gamma^\mu##.

My question is: In general, the momenta of the electrons in the vertex don't need to be on-shell, right? Then, do I need to impose on-shell electrons to determine the value of ##\delta_1##? Because, if I understand this properly, ##\delta_1## should be independent of ##p## and ##p'## and I don't see how this is possible if I don't fix them.

My question arises because all the calculations that I've seen assume on-shell electrons, and I don't understand if:
1- By definition ##\Gamma^\mu## must have on-shell electrons or
2- The renormalization condition imposes on-shell electrons in addition to the on-shell photon.

Thank you very much!
 
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Since QED is renormalizable in the Dyson sense the counter terms necessary to renormalize the theory look precisely as the ones in the original Lagrangian. If you use dim. reg. and minimal subtraction this will be automatically fulfilled and you also don't run into trouble with introducing additional IR problem when using a "physical renormalization scheme". Also note that there's a Ward identity, implying ##\delta_1=\delta_2##. This is important, because it's necessary to keep the counter-term Lagrangian gauge invariant as it must be.

Of course, the finite part of the vertex renormalization leads to important additional terms as the contribution to the magnetic moment of the electron, which was one of the early radiative-correction calculations (first done by Schwinger) in agreement with experiment.
 
vanhees71 said:
Since QED is renormalizable in the Dyson sense the counter terms necessary to renormalize the theory look precisely as the ones in the original Lagrangian. If you use dim. reg. and minimal subtraction this will be automatically fulfilled and you also don't run into trouble with introducing additional IR problem when using a "physical renormalization scheme". Also note that there's a Ward identity, implying ##\delta_1=\delta_2##. This is important, because it's necessary to keep the counter-term Lagrangian gauge invariant as it must be.

Of course, the finite part of the vertex renormalization leads to important additional terms as the contribution to the magnetic moment of the electron, which was one of the early radiative-correction calculations (first done by Schwinger) in agreement with experiment.
Ok thanks, but I'm not sure how to extract the answer to my question from here, can you be a little more specific?
 
For a nice discussion of renormalization of QED (and also QCD), see

https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0508242

There both the mass-independent ##\overline{\text{MS}}## renormalization scheme as well as the socalled "on-shell" renormalization scheme are described in detail.
 
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