Reparameterizing a Curve Using Arc Length as the Parameter

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The discussion revolves around reparameterizing a curve with respect to arc length. The original poster presents a vector function r(t) and seeks to express it in terms of arc length from a specified point.

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the vector function and compute the magnitude of the derivative. Some participants question the correctness of the derivative, particularly the presence of certain terms. Others discuss the integration process needed to find arc length and the implications of integration constants.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical details, checking each other's work, and exploring the implications of their findings. There is a focus on clarifying the derivative and understanding the integration process, with some guidance provided on the nature of the integration constant.

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There is mention of previous coursework and potential gaps in knowledge, as some participants reference their background in calculus. The discussion also touches on the significance of the integration constant in the context of parameterization.

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Homework Statement



"Reparameterize the curve with respect to the arc length measured from the point where t=0 in the direction of increasing t. r(t)=e^(2t)*cos2t i +2 j + e^(t2)*sin2t k"


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the method we were taught is take r'(t) and then find |r'(t)| and then integrate that.

but in every example we were given, the derivative was a real number, not a function (IE: 12, sqrt(23) etc)

i took the derivative and got [-2e^(2t)sin(2t)+2te^(2t)cos(2t)]i +0j + [2e^(2t)cos(2t)+2te^(2t)sin(2t)] k

then |r'(t)|=(after simplifying it i got) =2e^(2t)sqrt(1+t^2) which seems nice and simple now...but how to i integrate that...


the form they used was s=s(t)=integral from 0-t of |r'(u)|du
for every other problem of this nature
 
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Where did the t's in front of the exponentials in your derivative come from? They definitely shouldn't be there.
 
this derivative? [-2e^(2t)sin(2t)+2te^(2t)cos(2t)]i +0j + [2e^(2t)cos(2t)+2te^(2t)sin(2t)] k


r(t)=e^(2t)*cos2t i +2 j + e^(t2)*sin2t k

ill just do the firts part as "k" is the same as "i"

f'(t) "e^(2t)*cos2t"

u'v*v'u corrrect?

2t*e^t*cos2t + e(2t)*-sin2t

or did i do that wrong?
i thought the derivative of e^(2x)=2xe(2x) but maybe its juts 2e^(2x)? (this is calc 3 and i took calc 1 and 2 2 years ago so i kinda forget them! :(
 
Yes, it's just 2e^(2x). It's a pretty easy chain rule.
 
so doing it the RIGHT way i get the derivative is

[-2e^(2t)sin(2t)+2e^(2t)cos(2t)]i +0j + [2e^(2t)cos(2t)+2e^(2t)sin(2t)] k

which gives me a simplified |r'(t)| of 2e^(2t)sqrt2?
that look right now
 
and assuming that's right i would just integrate 2e^(2t)sqrt2? and get e^(2t)sqrt2? and then evaluate from o to t?
which would give me e^(2t)sqrt2-sqrt(2)
 
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So what's your new parameter t? So far, you only have arc length.
 
e^(2t)sqrt2-sqrt(2) would be the arc legnth

so the new parameter is since s=e^(2t)sqrt2-sqrt(2)
s+sqrt2=e^(2t)sqrt2
(s+sqrt2)/sqrt2=e^(2t)
ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2)=2tlne
ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2) /2 =t


original e^(2t)*cos2t i +2 j + e^(t2)*sin2t

final e^(ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2))*cos(ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2)) i +2 j + e^((ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2)))*sin(ln((s+sqrt2)/sqrt2))
 
Gotta confess, I'm not checking all the details for you. But it looks about right. You can check yourself. Take d/ds and see if you get a unit vector. BTW you could have skipped the integration constant. Why?
 
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what do you mean by the integration constant? the 2?
 
  • #11
No, the sqrt(2). The lower limit in your integral. It doesn't hurt you to include it though. Don't worry about it.
 
  • #12
you mean the sqrt2 is (s-sqrt2)/sqrt2 ??

can you explain why i don't need it pleasE? :D
 
  • #13
I mean there is not much difference between writing s+sqrt(2) and just s. It's just a change in the origin of the parametrization.
 

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