Repeated Eigenvalues: How to Solve for a General Solution

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of a system of differential equations characterized by a matrix with repeated eigenvalues. The original poster expresses frustration with the problem and attempts to derive eigenvalues from the characteristic polynomial.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to find eigenvalues by setting up the characteristic equation and expresses confusion when only obtaining the trivial solution. Some participants question the correctness of the eigenvalue calculation and suggest alternative interpretations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering corrections to the eigenvalue calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, particularly regarding the implications of having a singular matrix.

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There is mention of a second question involving a singular matrix, which complicates the transformation to a simpler form. The original poster indicates that they may have further questions related to the assignment.

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This problem, and all the others on this homework assignment, are making me angry.

Homework Statement



Find the general solution of the system of equations.

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x'=[-3 5/2; -5/2 2]x

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Just watch me solve

The Attempt at a Solution



Assume there's a solution x= $ert, where I'm denoting a vector with constant entries $.

----> (A-rI)=$
----> (A-rI) is singular
----> det(A-rI)=0
---->(-3-r)(2-r)-(-5/2)(5/2)=0
----> r= 1/2
---->(A-(1/2)I)$=(0 0)T

But then I have a problem because the only solution is $=(0 0)T.

I'd know how to proceed, were it not for this dilemma. Next I would Assume there's a second solution x=$tert + #ert, where # is another vector with constant entries, and then solve.
 
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The solution to (-3-r)*(2-r)-(-5/2)*(5/2)=0 is r=(-1/2), isn't it? Not r=1/2.
 
Dick said:
The solution to (-3-r)*(2-r)-(-5/2)*(5/2)=0 is r=(-1/2), isn't it? Not r=1/2.

r2 + 3r - 2r -6 + 25/4 = 0
r2 + r + 1/4 = 0
(r+1/2)2=0
r= -1/2

D'oh!

(More than likely, I will some more questions about this assignment. Keep checking into this thread.)
 
Alright, Dick. Here is that other question I promised you.

I have a problem in the form x'=P(t)x + g(t), and P(t) just happens to be a singular matrix with constant entries. Therefor I can't do a transformation to the form y'= Dy + h(t).

Grrrrr! Now what?
 
If P were diagonal, then you could split it into two separate equations. The usual way to do this is to find a basis of R^2 where P is diagonal, then express x and g in terms of that basis and solve. You aren't being very specific here.
 

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