Representations of semi-simple lie algebra

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The discussion revolves around the representations of semi-simple Lie algebras, particularly focusing on the assertion that all finite-dimensional representations of these algebras are Hermitian. Participants explore the implications of this statement, seek proofs, and reference relevant literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the truth of the statement regarding Hermitian representations of semi-simple Lie algebras, noting that while it can be proven for compact Lie groups, the general case remains uncertain.
  • One participant references a book by Fuchs and Schweigert that discusses constructing a Hermitian form on a highest weight module, suggesting it may provide insight into the topic.
  • Another participant mentions Weyl's unitarian trick as a method to show that representations of compact Lie groups are Hermitian, and attempts to relate this to semi-simple Lie algebras through the existence of a compact form.
  • There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the arguments presented, with some participants expressing a desire for more elementary proofs or clearer explanations.
  • One participant expresses concern about their background knowledge in the subject matter, indicating a struggle to connect the information from the referenced book to the problem at hand.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the truth of the statement regarding Hermitian representations of semi-simple Lie algebras. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the applicability of known results from compact Lie groups to the semi-simple case.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding and the need for further exploration of the topic, particularly regarding the definitions and properties of semi-simple algebras as presented in the referenced literature.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for those studying representation theory, quantum field theory, or anyone interested in the properties of semi-simple Lie algebras and their applications in physics.

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Hello everybody,

in Schwartz' QFT book it says (p. 483 - 484)
A theorem that explains the importance of semisimple Lie algebras in physics states that all finite-dimensional representations of semisimple algebras are Hermitian (see Problem 25.3
In Problem 25.3 this is repeated asking the reader for a proof. I wonder though if this is really true. I know this can be proven for Lie algebras of compact Lie groups (or to be precise, every representation is equivalent to a hermitian one), but I would not know how to show it for semisimple Lie algebras.
 
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page 230 of the book by fuchs and schweigert may be relevant. it shows how to construct a hermitian form on a highest weight module, which in the semi simple case is non degenerate. but i am a novice here.
 
Hello mathwonk,

thank you for your answer. Unfortunately this argument is a bit too abstract for me. However, if this means that the statement is indeed true I will try to find a more elementary proof. If I fail I will ask for help in the Homework & Courseworks forum section.
 
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Hello mathwonk,

thank you for your answer. Unfortunately this argument is a bit too abstract for me. However, if this means that the statement is indeed true I will try to find a more elementary proof. If I fail I will ask for help in the Homework & Courseworks forum section.
 
As you've already mentioned you know the proof for compact Lie groups, i.e. Weyl's unitarian trick, this result is a simple application of it. I'll start with a lightning review of Weyl's trick. To a compact Lie group G, associate a biinvariant measure dg. Now form an inner product on the complex vector space V, being used for the representation. Take this measure and average it over the group.Since V was taken to be complex, this averaged measure must be Hermitian.
Now we consider a complex semi-simple Lie algebra g. There exists a compact form, y, the Lie algebra of the real compact Lie group Y whose complexifiied Lie algebra is g.As a representation of y and g will agree on a complex vector space, we can apply the lifting property of simply connected groups to conclude that a representation of g must also be unitary. Have a nice day.
 
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Hey lchigo449,

thank you very much. So for every complex semi-simple Lie algebra there is a real compact Lie group whose complexification is the semi-simple Lie algebra. This is probably a basic fact, but as a Physicist I am struggling to find the relevant knowledge of this subject (I especially wonder if someone having only the information of the book in the OP is able to come up with such a proof...).
A nice day to you too :smile:
 
Just out of curiosity, what level of information is contained in this book? Also, glad I could clear up any confusion.
 
I'm working on this problem, too. But I really don't know how to start.

@lchigo449, that is a Quantum field theory book, and the only information related to this problem is the definition of semi-simple algebras.
 

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