Researching Pi-N Scattering and Virtual Photon Excitation of Neucleons

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The discussion revolves around Pi-N scattering and the excitation of nucleons via virtual photons. Participants explore the feasibility of controlling pi mesons for scattering experiments and the implications of using virtual photons in these processes. The conversation touches on experimental setups and the characteristics of pions, including their stability and decay properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how unstable pi mesons can be controlled for scattering with nucleons.
  • Another participant notes that virtual photons are internal line particles determined by reactions, raising concerns about the accuracy of control in experiments.
  • A different participant asks for clarification on which experiments involve Pi-N scattering and suggests that pions can travel significant distances before decaying, depending on their momentum.
  • It is mentioned that pions decay via the electro-weak interaction, with a specific lifetime for charged pions provided.
  • A participant references a formula related to pion decay length and momentum, indicating that it can be adjusted for different scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the control of pi mesons and the implications of using virtual photons. There is no consensus on the feasibility of these methods or the specifics of the experiments discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of their understanding regarding the stability of pions and the conditions necessary for effective scattering experiments. The conversation also reflects varying assumptions about the experimental setups and the nature of virtual photons.

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Pi-N scattering is useful for research on neucleon resonance.But pi meson is not stable,how could it be controlled to collide with a neucleon?

While,virtual photon is also used to excite neucleon,it is internal line particle,which is determined by a reaction,so how hard could it be controlled accurately?
 
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Sorry ,there is some error in my operation,I want to delate one of them.
 
Pi-N scattering in which experiment?
For example you can get pi-N scattering by placing some "target" near the creation of the pion... (in fact a relativistic charged pion=momenta over some ##m_\pi##'s, can travel for some meters before decaying. A momentum p~1GeV~10##m_\pi## would bring the pion to travel for about L~80meters before decaying)
 
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I happened to ask for a confirmation (which I got) yesterday about the formula I had deduced for a similar scenario:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/tau-momentum-for-decay-length.816902/
in that formula you could solve for [itex]l_{lab}[/itex] instead of momentum (you can try different momenta [itex]p[/itex]) and [itex]m[/itex] the mass of the pion. The lifetime is given in Vanshee's post above.
 

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