Resolving proteins with UV microscope

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The discussion revolves around the ability of a UV microscope to resolve crystallized proteins, specifically in the context of the claims made by a sales representative regarding the resolution capabilities of different types of microscopes. The subject area is molecular biology, focusing on microscopy and the physics of light resolution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between wavelength and resolution, referencing the Rayleigh criterion and the sizes of proteins compared to the wavelengths of visible and ultraviolet light. Questions arise about the validity of the sales rep's claims and the assumptions made regarding the wavelengths involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants analyzing the sales rep's statement and comparing the wavelengths of visible light to those of UV light. Some participants question the adequacy of the information provided and the implications of different wavelength ranges on resolution capabilities.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty regarding the specific wavelengths of visible light and how they relate to the resolution of protein structures. Participants mention the need for additional information to fully assess the claims made about the UV microscope's capabilities.

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Homework Statement


Your molecular biology lab studies proteins, and you're frustrated because your microscopes can't quite resolve crystallized proteins. A sales rep touts the advantages of an expensive microscope using 200-nm ultraviolet light, saying you'll be able to resolve structures less than half the size that's resolvable with your optical microscopes.

Is the sales rep correct?
no
yes

Homework Equations


Rayleigh criterion
slit: Θmin = λ/a
circular aperture: Θmin = 1.22λ/D
X-ray diffraction: 2dsinΘ = mλ

The Attempt at a Solution


I looked up the wavelength ranges of visible light and found 390nm to 700nm. I also found the average size of a protein to be 531 angstroms or 5.31x10^-8 m. I also heard that you can resolve an object as small as one fourth of the wavelength from somewhere, is this true (can't find anything in the book or online anywhere on this point)? So I thought the answer is the sales rep is correct because the protein length is larger than the wavelengths of visible light. Is this correct thinking? There is not really enough given in the problem to use the equations, so I am led to believe there is some other information I missed somewhere. Thank you.
 
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Les talons said:
A sales rep ... saying you'll be able to resolve structures less than half the size that's resolvable with your optical microscopes.

Is the sales rep correct?
The rep made a specific statement, and you are asked to comment on that. The statement says nothing about proteins.
I don't know whether this helps much, though. At least it avoids any question of what wavelengths the protein crystals absorb.
 
For optical microscopes, the resolvable structures would all be in the visible spectrum of wavelengths. Comparing half of the minimum wavelength of the visible light is 390 nm /2 = 195 nm, to 200 nm of the UV light. Because 195 < 200, the sales rep. is right?
 
Les talons said:
390 nm /2 = 195 nm... Because 195 < 200, the sales rep. is right?
Based purely on that, the sales rep would be wrong, no? But most visible light has longer wavelengths, and I do not see universal agreement on the 390 figure. Remember that you need to be able to observe it somehow. For the UV, that will involve some UV detector, whereas for an optical microscope you'll be using the human eye. Not everyone has the same colour range.
 

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