Resources to learn about scaling arguments

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The discussion revolves around the concept of scaling arguments, particularly in the context of a lecture by Walter Lewin from MIT. Participants seek resources and clarification on how to effectively understand and apply scaling arguments, including their relationship to dimensional analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding scaling arguments as presented in Lewin's lecture and seeks additional resources.
  • Another participant suggests searching for "dimensional analysis" as a related topic.
  • A participant clarifies that the lecture includes a scaling argument related to femurs, based on Galileo's assumptions, and emphasizes the need for understanding proportionality in mass and lengths.
  • There is a suggestion that scaling typically begins with dimensional analysis, although this is noted to occur after the scaling argument in the lecture.
  • A participant references a quote about Galileo's realization that simple geometric scaling does not apply when considering the mechanical strength of structures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to understanding scaling arguments. There are multiple perspectives on the relationship between scaling arguments and dimensional analysis, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective resources or methods for learning.

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Participants express uncertainty about the specific context of scaling arguments, such as whether they pertain to scaling up or down a system. There is also a lack of clarity on the definitions and assumptions underlying the discussions of scaling and dimensional analysis.

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Good resources to learn to make scaling arguments
Hi everybody,

After watching the first lecture by Walter Lewin from MIT, I'm finding hard to follow the part in what he talks about scaling arguments. I've been watching around the Internet for resources to get my head around it but I couldn't find much or maybe I'm not using the right keywords.

Does anybody know good resources and exercise where I can get a clearer picture of how to make scaling arguments?

Thanks
 
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Google "dimensional analysis"
 
Hi Chester, thanks for replying. I know that in the lecture Walter performs a dimensional analysis, but that's after the scaling argument with the femur.
 
Maybe you can provide more context? Are you talking about scale-up of a system (or scale-down)?
 
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean with the "scale-up"

In the lecture, he performs a scaling argument with femurs based on a Galileo's assumption. He makes several operations involving proportionality with the mass and lengths of the femurs. These kinds of analysis and the procedure are what I'm looking for.
 
My experience is that scaling typically starts with dimensional analysis. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer.
 
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jonander said:
but that's after the scaling argument with the femur.
Having heard the scaling argument, perhaps you could revisit the earlier parts of the lecture. I agree with @Chestermiller that dimensional analysis is probably the key here.
 
jonander said:
In the lecture, he performs a scaling argument with femurs based on a Galileo's assumption. He makes several operations involving proportionality with the mass and lengths of the femurs. These kinds of analysis and the procedure are what I'm looking for.

"Galileo realized that simple geometric scaling does not work when the mechanical strength of structures is taken into account."
Have a look at:
[PDF]SCALING - GALILEO
 
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