Resulting force of an object with variable movement

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The discussion focuses on calculating the resulting force of an object with variable movement, specifically addressing the confusion surrounding unit conversions between kilometers per hour (km/h) and meters per second (m/s). Participants clarify that the velocity must be converted from km/h to m/s by dividing by 3.6 to maintain consistency in SI units. The correct approach involves differentiating the velocity function V(t) = 9βt⁴/3.6 to derive the acceleration a(t) in m/s², which is essential for accurately calculating force using F = m*a.

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Homework Statement
The movement of a material point of mass 500 mg is described using the following formula: ## v=9 \cdot \beta \cdot t^4 ## ,variable in time and is expressed in km/h. Considering the movement in the context of classical physics, and knowing the constant ## \beta=0.2 m \cdot s^{-5} ## . The resulting force which acts on the object at t=20s is equal to:
## 0.08 kg m \cdot s^{-5} ##
## 8 kg *m \cdot s^{-2} ##
80 N
8 kN
Relevant Equations
## v=9* \beta * t^4 ##
## \beta = 0.2 m*s^{-5} ##
v(20)=288000 m/s=80000km/h
a=(80 000-0)/(20 -0)=4000 m*s^(-2)
F=m*a=0.0005*80 000 which doesn't fit any answers
 
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You seem to have assumed constant force and constant acceleration.
 
PeroK said:
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You seem to have assumed constant force and constant acceleration.
Then how should I go about solving it?
 
Thietlan said:
Then how should I go about solving it?
Treat the acceleration as a function of time.
 
PeroK said:
Treat the acceleration as a function of time.
Ok I calculate acceleration as the derivative of v which comes out to be ## a=36 \cdot \beta t^3 km/h^2 ## and then simply calculate F= m*a(20) ,still doesn't give the right answer. What else am I missing?
 
Thietlan said:
Ok I calculate acceleration as the derivative of v which comes out to be ## a=36 \cdot \beta t^3 km/h^2 ## and then simply calculate F= m*a(20) ,still doesn't give the right answer. What else am I missing?
I must be honest, I don't understand the question. It gives ##\beta## in ##m/s##, time in seconds and force in SI units. So, I don't understand the reference to ##km/h##.
 
A confusingly written question. But you can match one of the answers in the list by proceeding as follows:

v is the velocity in km/h. Let V be the velocity in m/s. That means V = v/3.6 and the given equation becomes:
V(t) = 9βt⁴/3.6 = 9*0.2*t⁴/3.6 = 0.5t⁴

Differentiate V(t) to find a(t) in m/s². The rest is straightforward.

Edit: minor changes
 
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Steve4Physics said:
A confusingly written question. But you can match one of the answers in the list by proceeding as follows:

v is the velocity in km/h. Let V be the velocity in m/s. That means V = v/3.6 and the given equation becomes:
V(t) = 9βt⁴/3.6 = 9*0.2*t⁴/3.6 = 0.5t⁴

Differentiate V(t) to find a(t) in m/s². The rest is straightforward.

Edit: minor changes
You did well to work that out. The question, IMO, is the product of a sick mind!
 
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PeroK said:
I must be honest, I don't understand the question. It gives ##\beta## in ##m/s##, time in seconds and force in SI units. So, I don't understand the reference to ##km/h##.
Neither did I and yes while dividing by 3.6 gives one of the responses I don't really get why I would need to divide. If it is in km/h then we should be multiplied by 3.6 and if it were in m/s well,in case there is no need to convert.
 
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Thietlan said:
Neither did I and yes while dividing by 3.6 gives one of the responses I don't really get why I would need to divide. If it is in km/h then we should be multiplied by 3.6 and if it were in m/s well,in case there is no need to convert.
For example, take v = 3.6km/h. What is this in m/s?

This speed corresponds to covering 3600m in 3600s. In m/s, this speed is V = distance/time = 3600m/3600s = 1m/s. (There are other ways to convert units, but this method should make what is happening clear.)

In terms of simple arithmetic we have divided the speed in km/h by 3.6 to get the speed in m/s.

In the given equation v(t) = 9βt⁴, we are (confusingly) told that v is in km/h. So dividing v by 3.6 converts it to m/s.

If V is the velocity in m/s: V(t) = v(t)/3.6 = 9βt⁴/3.6

And from that point on, using V(t), we are working entirely in SI units.
 
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