Resulting state vector interpretation

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the resulting state vector when an operator acts on a state vector in quantum mechanics. Participants explore whether the resulting vector is in the same vector space as the original state or in a different one, considering various types of operators and their implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the new vector y, resulting from the operator A acting on state vector x, is in the same vector space or a different one.
  • Another participant states that the interpretation depends on the type of operator A, noting that if A is a Hermitian operator, the resulting vector y has no physical interpretation.
  • It is proposed that if A is a unitary operator, the resulting vector y can have a physical interpretation, particularly in the context of time evolution.
  • A participant mentions that the relationship between certain state vectors and operators, such as the Pauli operators, illustrates the significance of the algebra involved rather than the broader principles of quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant asserts that the resulting vector y is in the same vector space as x, with the exception of creation and annihilation operators, which alter the number of particles but still belong to the same Fock space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the physical interpretation of the resulting vector y based on the type of operator A. There is no consensus on the implications of the resulting vector's state or its vector space categorization.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of operator types in quantum mechanics and their effects on state vectors, with specific references to Hermitian and unitary operators, as well as the implications of particle number changes in Fock space.

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If we have an operator A which operates on some state described by vector x the result is a new vector y
A |x> = |y>

My question is: is the new vector y considered to be a different state vector in the same vector space as x or is it considered to be a vector in an entirely different vector space? If the former then what does that new vector represent (I would assume a new state of the system after the operator)? If the latter then what does that new vector space represent?
 
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DaleSpam said:
If we have an operator A which operates on some state described by vector x the result is a new vector y
A |x> = |y>

My question is: is the new vector y considered to be a different state vector in the same vector space as x or is it considered to be a vector in an entirely different vector space? If the former then what does that new vector represent (I would assume a new state of the system after the operator)? If the latter then what does that new vector space represent?

The answer depends on the type of operator A.

If A is a Hermitian operator of observable (e.g., A = H, the Hamiltonian), then vector |y> has no physical intepretation.

However, if A is a unitary operator, then physical interpretation is available. For example, if A = exp(-iHt) = the operator of time translation, then |y> = exp(-iHt)|x> is the state vector of the system after time t has elapsed.
 
meopemuk said:
If A is a Hermitian operator of observable (e.g., A = H, the Hamiltonian), then [in general the] vector |y> has no physical intepretation [at least none which follow directly from the standard postulates of quantum mechanics].

I filled in the [] phrases because it is a frequently used fact that if |0> and |1> are the spin down and spin up eigenstates of the pauli operator Z, then X |0> = |1> and X |1> = |0> where X is the pauli x operator. This is more than a coincidence and it plays a big role in e.g. quantum spin chains, but it follows more from the nature of the su(2) algebra spanned by the pauli operators than it does from QM itself.
 
DaleSpam said:
My question is: is the new vector y considered to be a different state vector in the same vector space as x or is it considered to be a vector in an entirely different vector space?
It's in the same vector space. The only exception I can think of is creation and annihilation operators, which change the number of particles. And even in that case, it's a matter of how you look at it. Both the |x> and the |y> are in the Fock space, but |x> is in the subspace of n-particle states while |y> is in the subspace of (n+1)-particle states (or n-1).
 
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