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The discussion centers around a children's television program titled "Tiny Tots for Jesus," which sparked outrage among some viewers who believe it is inappropriate to label children by their parents' religion. The original poster expresses concern that such programming promotes religious dogma to very young children, arguing that it is damaging and akin to indoctrination. This perspective is met with mixed responses, with some participants defending the right of parents to raise their children within their religious beliefs, while others emphasize the importance of critical thinking and the potential harm of labeling children by religion. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of religious indoctrination and the rights of individuals to express their beliefs, highlighting the tension between freedom of religion and the perceived need to protect children from being categorized by their parents' faith. The debate reflects differing views on the impact of religious education on children's development and autonomy.
  • #61
Proton Soup said:
history is on my side.

If you don't see the fallacy of that argument then ignorance is the only thing on your side.

And we don't agree Dawkins is a lay person. Again, go to Wikipedia or read his biography on a website. He is a credentialed scientist. The point I was making was that there are no scientific appeals to authority on this subject of religion being child abuse, so even if he wasn't credentialed, it wouldn't matter. Apparently you didn't see that.
 
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  • #62
Proton Soup said:
history is on my side.

One liners don't work on me, sorry. I require well thought out responses with sources.

Note, you don't even address the issue I raised with your post: how convenient.

What's worse, your link to secularism as 'genocide' is dishonest and should get you a warning. You are misquoting that out of context. Please remove it, or I'll warn your post.
 
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  • #63
Cyrus said:
One liners don't work on me, sorry. I require well thought out responses with sources.

Note, you don't even address the issue I raised with your post: how convenient.

What's worse, your link to secularism as 'genocide' is dishonest and should get you a warning. You are misquoting that out of context. Please remove it, or I'll warn your post.

warn me, helper. there's nothing dishonest about it. it's an attempt to destroy religious groups.
 
  • #64
Proton Soup said:
warn me, helper. there's nothing dishonest about it. it's an attempt to destroy religious groups.

I have reported it and asked it be taken down. It is dishonest because no one is arguing to change conditions of life of religious people in the context that you have quoted.

Please explain why you think what you quoted in bold is fair, and relevant.
 
  • #65
Cyrus said:
I have reported it and asked it be taken down. It is dishonest because no one is arguing to change conditions of life of religious people in the context that you have quoted.

Please explain why you think what you quoted in bold is fair, and relevant.

you're kidding, right? you think accusing parents teaching their own religion to their own children of child abuse and wanting to stop it (implies government intervention) is not an assault on a religious group? do you seriously not understand how culture works? are you completely unaware of human behaviour?
 
  • #66
Proton Soup said:
you're kidding, right? you think accusing parents teaching their own religion to their own children of child abuse and wanting to stop it (implies government intervention) is not an assault on a religious group? do you seriously not understand how culture works? are you completely unaware of human behaviour?

I never used the word child abuse, so I don't know why you are saying I did. The OP used those words, if you have a problem with his wording, I suggest you take it up with him and not me.

I am arguing that legal adults have the right to follow whatever religion they choose. Children should not be force fed religion down their throats.

I'm pretty sure I know how culture and human behavior works, but thank's for asking.
 
  • #67
Cyrus said:
I never used the word child abuse, so I don't know why you are saying I did. The OP used those words, if you have a problem with his wording, I suggest you take it up with him and not me.

I am arguing that legal adults have the right to follow whatever religion they choose. Children should not be force fed religion down their throats.

I'm pretty sure I know how culture and human behavior works, but thank's for asking.

OK, it's fine that you believe that. But I happen to believe that attempting to interfere with parents' religious instruction of their children is a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. I know the word "genocide" is an emotional term for most people, but if you actually look at the definition you'll see that it is much broader than the popular concept of extermination. check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Problem_from_Hell:_America_and_the_Age_of_Genocide" for a little background.
 
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  • #68
Proton Soup said:
OK, it's fine that you believe that. But I happen to believe that attempting to interfere with parents' religious instruction of their children is a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. I know the word "genocide" is an emotional term for most people, but if you actually look at the definition you'll see that it is much broader than the popular concept of extermination. check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Problem_from_Hell:_America_and_the_Age_of_Genocide" for a little background.

You have not provided any evidence what-so-ever that suggest any of the criteria of genocide have been met in any of your posts.
 
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  • #69
Cyrus said:
You have not provided any evidence what-so-ever that suggest any of the criteria of genocide have been met in any of your posts.

that you are uneducated is not my problem. do a little reading on the subject. understand what it is and why it is.
 
  • #70
This thread was pretty useless from the start and the quality of discussion hasn't risen much (if any) above the absurd and pointless. Locked pending moderation.
 

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