Right to strike for government employee

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the right of government employees in the USA to strike, comparing their situation to that of other employees. It explores the legal framework, implications for public safety, and the role of unions in representing government workers.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that government employees do not have the right to strike due to legal restrictions, specifically citing 5 USC 7311.
  • Others express surprise at the breadth of the law, suggesting that they believed the prohibition was limited to safety-related jobs.
  • There are questions regarding the necessity of union representation for government employees, with some arguing that the government should follow labor laws without the need for unions.
  • Some participants note that unions primarily function as lobbying groups, especially since strikes are not an option for federal employees.
  • Concerns about public safety are raised, questioning whether the inability of government employees to strike is justified compared to other professions, such as doctors.
  • There is a discussion about the effectiveness of unions in advocating for government employees, with some expressing uncertainty about their impact.
  • Some participants challenge the idea that a strike by government employees would not significantly disrupt government functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the legality and implications of strikes by government employees, with no consensus reached on the necessity or effectiveness of unions in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific legal statutes and historical events, such as the firing of FAA controllers by Reagan, but there are unresolved questions about the broader implications of these laws and the role of unions.

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Why doesn't the government employee in USA have the right to strike when other employees in the usa have the right?
 
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I don't think that's true. What makes you think so?
 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_federal_employees_strike
No, per 5 USC 7311, An individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia if he- (1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government; (2) is a member of an organization that he knows advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government; (3) participates in a strike, or asserts the right to strike, against the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia; or (4) is a member of an organization of employees of the Government of the United States or of individuals employed by the government of the District of Columbia that he knows asserts the right to strike against the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia.
 
I never knew this. I always thought that Reagan firing the FAA controllers was on the basis of something like 'safety related jobs aren't allowed to strike', not such a broad overarching rule
 
MaxManus said:
Why doesn't the government employee in USA have the right to strike when other employees in the usa have the right?

I would think public safety would be the first concern. I've often wondered why Government employees need union representation? Doesn't the Government typically follow labor laws?
 
I misunderstood the OP: didn't realize you meant federal government only.

In either case, insofar as a "strike" is just a bunch of people walking off a job, as a practical matter it can't really be outlawed. However, at the same time if you don't show up for work, your boss can just fire you, like Reagan did. Not sure that it really mattered that what the FAA workers did violated a law.
I always thought that Reagan firing the FAA controllers was on the basis of something like 'safety related jobs aren't allowed to strike'...
How 'bout: "you annoy me: you're fired!"?
 
enosis_ said:
I would think public safety would be the first concern. I've often wondered why Government employees need union representation? Doesn't the Government typically follow labor laws?

From my experience, the union has mostly functioned as a lobbying group. Since we can't strike or argue over pay, they use the fact they represent a little over a quarter million employees as their bargaining chip. As to how effective this is for us, I have no idea.
 
MarneMath said:
From my experience, the union has mostly functioned as a lobbying group. Since we can't strike or argue over pay, they use the fact they represent a little over a quarter million employees as their bargaining chip. As to how effective this is for us, I have no idea.

I thought there were more Government union employees than 250,000? Don't the postal union (AFL-CIO) members number nearly that many?

http://www.unionfacts.com/union/American_Postal_Workers
 
russ_watters said:
I misunderstood the OP: didn't realize you meant federal government
In either case, insofar as a "strike" is just a bunch of people walking off a job, as a practical matter it can't really be outlawed. However, at the same time if you don't show up for work, your boss can just fire you, like Reagan did.

Yes but that is an argument against strikes in general, the question is why federal employees can't strike.
 
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enosis_ said:
I would think public safety would be the first concern. I've often wondered why Government employees need union representation? Doesn't the Government typically follow labor laws?

Not sure what you mean with public safety, is it more important for the safety a washington bureaucrat does not strike than doctors? The government employees doesn't need striking as in we need water to survide but striking power helps to increase wages.
 
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MaxManus said:
Not sure what you mean with public safety, is it more important for the safety a washington bureaucrat does not strike than doctors? The government employees doesn't need striking as in we need water to survide but striking power helps to increase wages.

Are doctors unionized?
 
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MaxManus said:
Not sure what you mean with public safety, is it more important for the safety a washington bureaucrat does not strike than doctors? The government employees doesn't need striking as in we need water to survide but striking power helps to increase wages.

Wouldn't a walk out of Government workers cause the Government not to function?
 

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