Rotary Vane Engines: Advantages & Disadvantages

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The discussion revolves around the advantages and disadvantages of rotary vane engines, focusing on the mechanical stresses experienced by the vanes, friction issues, sealing challenges, and the feasibility of developing such engines with current materials technology. The conversation includes comparisons to reciprocating engines and references to existing technologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the stress on the vanes in rotary vane engines is significantly greater than that on connecting rods in reciprocating engines.
  • Concerns are raised about the level of sliding friction in rotary vane engines compared to pistons, with one participant suggesting that friction is low but increases with RPM.
  • Sealing issues are mentioned as a potential disadvantage, with a comparison made to Mazda's rotary engine and its resonance problems related to tip seals.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the economic viability of developing rotary vane engines, despite believing that engineering challenges could be overcome.
  • A reference to existing literature on the Mallory vane engine is provided for further exploration of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and challenges of rotary vane engines, with no consensus reached on the severity of the stresses, friction, or sealing issues involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for a full-scale engineering development program and the potential economic implications, indicating that the discussion is limited by assumptions about material capabilities and design challenges.

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are the 'vanes' of a rotary vane engine a major disadvantage? granted that the vanes would be under considerable stress, but is it so much larger than the stress on connecting rod in reciprocating engines? and is sliding friction on sides very high compared to pistons? also, is sealing a major issue?
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What is "considerable stress?" An engineer determines his loads, and then designs for them.

I've seen this same concept used in air compressors. Works very well with little maintenance. Friction is low, but increases with rpm.

The only potential problem that pops out at me is the same as what Mazda had when they first introduced their rotary engine. Though engine design is much different, the tip seals are similar. They developed a resonance problem and would bounce off the wall, but that is fixed easily enough in the design.
 
by 'considerable stress'i meant that the load can't be handled by existing materials technology
 
I'm not so sure that we don't have the ability to build such an engine. Certainly, it would require a full scale engineering development program; but if we can build a gas turbine with turbine inlet temperatures at 3600 degrees F, we can build this little motor. I have serious doubts that it would be ecconomically viable, though.
 

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