Royden Review:LimSup, LimInf are the Largest/Smallest Limit Points of {a_n}

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The discussion focuses on proving that the limit superior (LimSup) and limit inferior (LimInf) of a sequence {a_n} are the largest and smallest limit points, respectively. The user establishes that if the sequence converges, LimSup equals LimInf, confirming a unique limit point. For non-converging sequences, the user outlines a proof strategy involving monotone subsequences and the least upper bound (LUB) property. The challenge remains in demonstrating that LimSup is indeed the largest limit point, while LimInf is automatically the smallest limit point once this is established.

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Hi, All:

Let {a_n}; n=1,2,... be sequence. I am trying to show LimSup and LimInf are the largest and smallest limit points of {a_n}. This is what I got so far:

i) If {a_n} converges, to, say, a<oo, then LimSup=LimInf, and we're done, since we have a unique limit point L. If a=oo, then oo is the limit point.

I think I can show ( here in ii) below ) that Lim Sup, Lim Inf are both limit points of {a_n}, but I cannot show they are the largest, smallest respectively.

LimSup is a limit point of {a_n} if {a_n} does not converge:
Proof:
ii)If {a_n} does not converge, then it is not strictly monotone, so we can extract monotone

non-increasing and monotone non-decreasing subsequences ( by using, e.g., the lim sup

and lim ii) lim sup, lim inf are both limit points; in the case of lim sup, the sequence: a_n' :

{ sup_k>n(a_n)} is monotone non-increasing; by the LUB property,L= LimSup{a_n} :=inf_n

(a_n') exists, and it is a limit point of {a_n}; by contradiction, if L were not a limit point of

{a_n}, there would be e>0 with L> a_k-e for all a_k. But then L is not the lub of the

monotone-decreasing subsequence; a_k-e is the LUB.

I am stuck trying to show that Lim Sup is the largest limit point; I am sure the proof that

Lim Inf is the smallest limit point is automatic after knowing this one.

Thanks.
 
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What is your definition of "limsup" and "liminf". The definition I learned was "[/itex]a= limsup a_n[/itex] if and only if a is the supremum of the set of all subsequential limits of a_n" and "b= liminf a_n if and only if b is the infimum of the set of all subsequential limits of a_n".

But notice that I used "sup" and "inf", NOT "largest" and "smallest". A sequence may not have "largest and smallest limit points".
 
Let's say that L is a limit point of the sequence. Can you prove that

\sup_{n\geq k}~{a_n}\geq L

for every k?
 

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