Sad Decline of Neighbourly Relationships

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The discussion revolves around the perceived decline of neighborly relationships in contemporary society. Participants explore the changes in social interactions within neighborhoods, contrasting past experiences with current realities. The conversation touches on various aspects, including personal anecdotes, societal shifts, and the impact of urban living on community bonds.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express nostalgia for the past when neighbors were more connected, sharing personal stories of community interactions.
  • Others note that traditional sources of neighborly interaction, such as familial ties and shared responsibilities, have diminished over time.
  • A few participants highlight the differences between urban and rural living, suggesting that small towns maintain stronger community ties compared to cities.
  • Concerns are raised about the reluctance to form attachments in transient living situations, particularly in urban environments where neighbors frequently move.
  • Some participants recount experiences of trying to engage with neighbors, only to encounter indifference or brief interactions without meaningful connection.
  • One participant shares positive experiences of neighborly support and interaction, contrasting with others' more negative views on neighborly relationships.
  • There is a suggestion that social networks have expanded but may lack depth compared to previous generations, leading to a different kind of social isolation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there has been a decline in neighborly interactions, but multiple competing views exist regarding the reasons for this change and the nature of current relationships. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing perspectives on whether the situation is improving or worsening.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the impact of societal changes, urbanization, and personal circumstances on neighborly relationships. There are unresolved questions about the role of modern social structures and their influence on community dynamics.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring social dynamics, community building, and the effects of urbanization on interpersonal relationships.

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Years ago people knew each other in their street/road whatever, but now
if some one new buys a house in your local, you may never meet/socialise
with them, it is sad that people do not interact as they used to.
 
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Previously, people could expect that their neighbours
a) also were relatives
b) workmates
and/or

c) "Repositories" for groceries you didn't have the time or money to buy on your own.

All these three sources for neighbourly interaction have dried up;
in addition, there are no longer any bored house-wives who go over to each other in the day-time to swap knitting recipes, husband woes and child boasts.

I agree that it is, indeed, a sad feature that neighbourliness has disappeared, but there aren't that many natural/spontaneous reasons for why you should talk to your neighbour unless his apple tree shadows for your garden spot.
 
wolram said:
Years ago people knew each other in their street/road whatever, but now
if some one new buys a house in your local, you may never meet/socialise
with them, it is sad that people do not interact as they used to.
I remember growing up, everyone knew everyone. People moved into a house and lived there for years. Now it's becoming rarer to find people staying in a house for very long.

When the girls were at home, I knew most of the neighbors, but now that I'm alone, I don't associate much. One problem is that being a single woman, it was funny that if I was outside and a male neighbor started talking to me, their wife would come shooting out of the house with some "urgent" reason their husband had to come inside.
 
arildno said:
Previously, people could expect that their neighbours
a) also were relatives
b) workmates
and/or

c) "Repositories" for groceries you didn't have the time or money to buy on your own.

All these three sources for neighbourly interaction have dried up;
in addition, there are no longer any bored house-wives who go over to each other in the day-time to swap knitting recipes, husband woes and child boasts.

I agree that it is, indeed, a sad feature that neighbourliness has disappeared, but there aren't that many natural/spontaneous reasons for why you should talk to your neighbour unless his apple tree shadows for your garden spot.

This is so sad, when i was a kid ,i had so many aunts and uncles ( not related) i could visit and be welcomed,fed, mended, but now--------.
 
wolram said:
This is so sad, when i was a kid ,i had so many aunts and uncles ( not related) i could visit and be welcomed,fed, mended, but now--------.

Kindergartens, rather than kindly old aunties in the neigbourhood also have a share in the "blame", if we could call it "blame".


I do not think our social networks are any less extensive, rather I think in extension, these have grown.
However, perhaps most of our acquaintances only have a narrow, specific role in our life, as sparring partner at the gym, say.

Thus, it may be argued that the average "depth" in our relationships have decreased, relative to those of the previous generations.
 
wolram said:
Years ago people knew each other in their street/road whatever, but now
if some one new buys a house in your local, you may never meet/socialise
with them, it is sad that people do not interact as they used to.

It is still like that in small towns and farming areas where i am from, but you are right it sure isn't like that in the city. It was a big shock coming to the city for school and finding people won't even look at each other and say hi when they pass each other on the street. I hardly know anyone in the building I live in, I've tried to start conversations with a few people but it is pretty apparent they have no interest in meeting their neighbours. It is sad really.
 
scorpa said:
It is still like that in small towns and farming areas where i am from, but you are right it sure isn't like that in the city. It was a big shock coming to the city for school and finding people won't even look at each other and say hi when they pass each other on the street. I hardly know anyone in the building I live in, I've tried to start conversations with a few people but it is pretty apparent they have no interest in meeting their neighbours. It is sad really.
I think people don't want to become attached to someone they know will move away soon. In the city, in apartments especially, it's rare to have the same neighbors for long.
 
Evo said:
I think people don't want to become attached to someone they know will move away soon. In the city, in apartments especially, it's rare to have the same neighbors for long.

True I suppose but it doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Half the time you try to talk to someone here and they kind of grunt hey at you without making eye contact and then leave, if they even do that.
 
When I was a kid we had a very friendly block. We even had weekly volleyball games in which most of the neighborhood participated - kids and adults alike. This went on for almost ten years. But that was a unique situation even then. Since then, the only times that I have really gotten to know the neighbors I regretted it. Currently, the only time that I hear from the neighbors is when they want something. And more often than not, the ones who go out of their way to be neighborly will be the first to become pests.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
When I was a kid we had a very friendly block. We even had weekly volleyball games in which most of the neighborhood participated - kids and adults alike. This went on for almost ten years. But that was a unique situation even then. Since then, the only times that I have really gotten to know the neighbors I regretted it. Currently, the only time that I hear from the neighbors is when they want something. And more often than not, the ones who go out of their way to be neighborly will be the first to become pests.

So are we condemned to be more isolated? i think that separation is the major
reason for dis harmony in this wobegotten world, why is it so hard to say hi
to your neighbor?
 
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wolram said:
So are we condemned to be more isolated? i think that separation is the major
reason for dis harmony in this wobegotten world, why is it so hard to say hi
to your neighbor?
I speak to my neighbor on the east side of the house, we share gardening tips and information, and we trade plants. When they had a well problem and needed water, I hooked up a hose so they had water. This winter, my neighbor came over with his snow-blower and cleared about 10-15 of my drive near the street. The kids used to play together in the back yard, but then they grew apart. Now our oldest are off to college.

We talk to the lady on the other side, and we help her out if she asks. She is retired and gone most of the time, so we don't see her too much, except briefly on the weekends.

I rarely see the neighbors across the street, but we wave whenever we pass. Sometimes, if I'm walking by a neighbor's, I'll stop and chat.

Beyond the neighborhood we have friends in the immediate area whom we visit.

I know a lot of people who socialize through a religious institution (church, synagogue, mosque, . . . ) or secular or ecumenical social organization. So socializing does occur.
 
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