Safe Endothermic reactions for skin

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying safe endothermic reactions that can be applied to the skin without causing burns or severe allergic reactions. Participants explore potential chemical reactions, their safety profiles, and the desired cooling effects, with a focus on practical applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about fast endothermic reactions involving water that are safe for skin contact, specifically looking for reactions that do not burn or cause allergic reactions.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "safe," prompting clarification about the absence of burns or severe allergic reactions.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for dangerous endothermic reactions to freeze the skin, contrasting them with exothermic reactions that could cause burns.
  • A suggestion is made to consider the rate of cooling in the inquiry, noting differences in health effects related to various cooling sensations.
  • Menthol is proposed as a substance that provides a cooling sensation, though it is cautioned that it may damage the skin and cause allergies.
  • Rubbing alcohol is mentioned as a rapidly evaporating substance that could achieve actual cooling.
  • One participant asks about the application context, referencing commercially available cold packs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the safety of suggested substances and whether they meet the criteria for skin application. Multiple competing views on what constitutes a safe endothermic reaction remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of safety and the specific health effects of suggested substances, as well as the varying interpretations of "cooling sensation" versus actual cooling.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring safe chemical applications for skin cooling, including those in fields related to dermatology, chemistry, or product development for topical applications.

Zachrz
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Hi, Its my first time here in PF, I was wondering what could be a fast endothermic reaction(with water) that does not burn the skin/ cause severe allergic reactions when/after touching or in contact with the reaction. (With high rate of cooling and hopefully no bubbles or gas forming). E.g to be applied onto the skin. I searched all over the web and found urea with water but i don't know whether it is safe for humans. Please give any insights if possible. Thank you
 
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Zachrz said:
that is safe for humans.
"Safe?" As in what's your definition of "safe?"
 
Bystander said:
"Safe?" As in what's your definition of "safe?"
Hi, What i meant was whether it does not burn the skin/ cause severe allergic reactions when/after touching or in contact with the reaction. (Hopefully no bubbles or gas forming too)
 
Zachrz said:
whether it does not burn the skin
Dangerous endothermic reactions would freeze the skin, no? Exothermic reactions would carry the risk of burning...
 
berkeman said:
Dangerous endothermic reactions would freeze the skin, no? Exothermic reactions would carry the risk of burning...
Ooh... Ooh my, is there any safe endothermic reactions that won't freeze skin, but provide a cooling sensation?
 
You might want to include "rate of cooling" in the construction of your inquiry; there're differences in "health" effects, "chills" from "old wive's tales" versus "brisk invigoration" of the total immersion of the "polar bear club health nuts."
 
Thank you! okay i will make an edit for my question.
 
Zachrz said:
wont freeze skin, but provide a cooling sensation?
Did you just change the question here with "cooling sensation"?
If so, topically applied Menthol gives the 'sensation' of cooling.

Otherwise, if actual cooling is the goal, anything that evaporates rapidly will do that, i.e. Rubbing Alcohol.
 
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Hi Tom, Thanks for suggesting menthol, however menthol might damage the skin and have a chance of causing allergies. The chemical substance and the reaction should be safe even for babies.
 
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What's the application ?

There are use-once cold packs, commercially available pretty much everywhere.
 

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