Sampling distribution of a statistic

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The discussion revolves around the sampling distribution of a statistic derived from a random sample of 25 observations. Participants explore the probability that a statistic \( W \) is less than 1.5, given a probability density function (pdf) defined as \( f(x) = \frac{2}{x^2} \) for \( 1 < x < 2 \). The conversation includes aspects of integration and the interpretation of the density function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that the density function \( f(x) \) is 0 outside the interval \( (1, 2) \) and discuss the implications for integration.
  • There is a proposal to integrate \( f(x) \) from 1 to 1.5 to find the probability \( P(W < 1.5) \), but uncertainty remains about the correct limits for integration.
  • One participant calculates the integral of \( f(x) \) from 1 to 2 and finds it equals 1, raising questions about the probability calculation for \( W < 1.5 \).
  • Another participant points out that integrating \( f(x) \) from 1 to 3 yields \( \frac{4}{3} \), leading to confusion about the density being 0 outside the specified interval.
  • A later reply suggests splitting the integral into two parts when integrating over a range that includes values outside the interval where \( f(x) \) is defined.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the density function is 0 outside the interval \( (1, 2) \). However, there is disagreement and confusion regarding the correct limits for integration and the implications of integrating over different ranges.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the interpretation of the density function and the proper approach to calculating probabilities using integration, particularly concerning the limits of integration.

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Looking at another textbook problem, hope someone can let me know if I'm on the right track:

Let $X_1, X_2, ... X_{25}$ be a random sample from some distribution and let $W = T(X_1, X_2, ... X_{25})$ be a statistic. Suppose the sampling distribution of W has a pdf given by $f(x) = \frac{2}{x^2}, 1 < x < 2$ . Find the probability that W < 1.5

So from what I understand, we're sampling 25 numbers from a population and then getting some statistic, like a mean or a median from those 25 numbers. If you sample enough times, you get $f(x) = \frac{2}{x^2}, 1 < x < 2$ as a sampling distribution for that statistic, between 1 and 2. I'm pretty sure you need to take a definite integral here with 1.5 as an upper limit, but what's the lower limit? 1? 0? $-\infty$ ? Also, do you integrate with respect to x or some other variable? Or maybe I'm way off. Hope someone can help, thanks!
 
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das said:
Looking at another textbook problem, hope someone can let me know if I'm on the right track:

Let $X_1, X_2, ... X_{25}$ be a random sample from some distribution and let $W = T(X_1, X_2, ... X_{25})$ be a statistic. Suppose the sampling distribution of W has a pdf given by $f(x) = \frac{2}{x^2}, 1 < x < 2$ . Find the probability that W < 1.5

So from what I understand, we're sampling 25 numbers from a population and then getting some statistic, like a mean or a median from those 25 numbers. If you sample enough times, you get $f(x) = \frac{2}{x^2}, 1 < x < 2$ as a sampling distribution for that statistic, between 1 and 2. I'm pretty sure you need to take a definite integral here with 1.5 as an upper limit, but what's the lower limit? 1? 0? $-\infty$ ? Also, do you integrate with respect to x or some other variable? Or maybe I'm way off. Hope someone can help, thanks!

Hi das,

I interpret the specification of $f$ to mean that the density is 0 outside of the given interval.
What do you get if you integrate $f$ between $1$ and $2$?
 
Hi! Thank you you've been very helpful.
Integrating between 1 and 2 gets the indefinite integral of $-\frac{2}{x}$. Between 2 and 1 this is (-1) - (-2) = 1. Which makes sense, but how do I take that info and figure out the probability that W < 1.5 ?

Thanks again
 
das said:
Hi! Thank you you've been very helpful.
Integrating between 1 and 2 gets the indefinite integral of $-\frac{2}{x}$. Between 2 and 1 this is (-1) - (-2) = 1. Which makes sense, but how do I take that info and figure out the probability that W < 1.5 ?

Thanks again

It confirms that the density is indeed 0 outside the interval.
And it means that:
$$P(W<1.5) \underset{def}{=} \int_{-\infty}^{1.5} f_W(x) \,dx = \int_{1}^{1.5} f(x) \,dx$$
 
But if the density is 1 between 1 and 2, doesn't that mean that it should be 0 everywhere else? And that's not true--If I integrate with different limits, say between 1 and 3, I get $\frac{4}{3}$. If the density were 0 outside this interval, doesn't that mean I should still get 1 between 1 and 3?
 
das said:
But if the density is 1 between 1 and 2, doesn't that mean that it should be 0 everywhere else? And that's not true--If I integrate with different limits, say between 1 and 3, I get $\frac{4}{3}$. If the density were 0 outside this interval, doesn't that mean I should still get 1 between 1 and 3?

You are correct that the density is 0 elsewhere. So if you did something like: $$\int_{1}^{3}f(x) \,dx$$ you would have to split it up into two integrals since $f(x)$ is not the same over that region.

$$\int_{1}^{3}f(x) \, dx = \int_{1}^{2} \frac{2}{x^2} \, dx+\int_{2}^{3}0 \, dx$$
 
Ah ok thank you. Guess there's no reason you'd ever need to complicate your life by doing that.
 

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