Solving the Satellite Paradox: K+U=E

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The discussion centers on the Satellite Paradox, which describes the increase in velocity of a satellite in a near-circular orbit when subjected to a drag force. The specific energy equation K + U = E is established, where K represents specific kinetic energy (K = v²/2), U is specific potential energy (U = -μ/r), and E is total specific energy. The participants explore the implications of taking derivatives of the total energy with respect to orbital radius (r) and time (t), ultimately concluding that dE/dr is the correct approach for analyzing energy changes in this context.

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{This paradox denotes the fact that a satellite in a near circular orbit suffers an increase in velocity when subject to a drag force.}

The Specific energy of the satellite is K + U = E where K =v^2/2 is specific kinetic energy. U= -u/r is specific energy and E is specific total energy. If satellite in circular orbit then u=(v^2)*r.

If orbital radius changes by a small amount dr, what is the resulting change dE of the total energy?

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What I figured to do is take derivative with respect to r but if I do that it will cancel out the distance completely when I plug in the u into the E equation. I I'm not sure if that's the approach I should take. Or should I take derivative with respect to time, because as time changes distance also changes. Not to sure...
 
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What I figured to do is take derivative with respect to r but if I do that it will cancel out the distance completely when I plug in the u into the E equation...

Can you show what you mean by this?
 
So if I take the derivative of the specific total energy E with respect to the distance value r something like this:

dE/dr = -\mu/2r --> i plug in the value of \mu = (v^2)*r

it turns into -(v^2)*r/2r the r will cancel in this case...(or maybe i should leave one alone and continue to eval the derivative...

The other case would be to take dE/dt to see the change in dr.
 
This is paradoxically true -- assuming the drag force is small, of course.

What is the total energy for a circular orbit as a function of orbital radius?
 
That is what I show up there its E=-\mu/2r where \mu = (v^2)r
 
If -μ/r has dimensions of energy, then how can dE/dr = -μ/2r? The dimensions don't match.
 
Ok then that would mean dE/dr wouldn't work so, it has to be dE/dt in order to get my answer; so in order to take the derivative with respect to time I would have to plug in v=d/t into the equation right...
 
dE/dr is the correct approach.
 
Okay thanks I got it
 

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