Scheduling for First Semester at New School

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The discussion revolves around course scheduling for a student transferring to a new school and considering their first semester course load. The focus is on whether to include Linear Algebra as an elective alongside required physics and math courses, while balancing the transition to full-time study and acclimating to a new environment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests taking it easy during the first semester to adjust to the new school environment.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the decision should depend on the individual's circumstances, including potential stress from moving.
  • A participant shares their experience of taking a lighter course load after transferring and expresses satisfaction with that choice.
  • Questions are raised about the specific textbook and topics covered in the Math Methods course, with one participant providing details about their own school's curriculum and the challenges it presents.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of mastering foundational math topics for future physics courses, highlighting that upper division math focuses more on proofs than direct calculations.
  • One participant argues that understanding abstract mathematics can enhance problem-solving skills in physics, particularly in advanced topics like group theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to take Linear Algebra in the first semester. Some advocate for a lighter course load to ease the transition, while others emphasize the potential benefits of learning Linear Algebra despite it not being a requirement.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with course difficulty and the structure of math courses, indicating that individual preparedness and the specific curriculum may influence the decision.

Who May Find This Useful

Students transitioning to new academic environments, particularly those in STEM fields considering course loads and elective choices.

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I am transferring to a new school and also transitioning from taking a more part-time class load to a full-time and want to maintain a reasonable course load. I will be taking

Modern Physics
Math Methods of Physics
Sophomore Lab

What I want to know is whether or not I should take Linear Algebra for my fourth class- it isn't required by my degree but I want to learn it and it is a pre-req for some more interesting math courses. Apparently, the Math Methods course is very difficult so I don't want to overwhelm myself. The other option would be to fulfill a gen ed pre-req or take a free elective in something I am interested in.

Should I take it easy for my first semester at a new school?
 
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I vote for taking it easy.

Give yourself a semester to become acclimated.
 
I think it's going to depend on you, and how much change you'll be going through. Will you be moving, in addition to transferring? That will add a lot of stress.

I took it easy in my first quarter after I transfered, and I was glad for it. There's plenty of time for stress before you graduate :biggrin:.
 
DO you know what text you will be using for Math Methods? And what topics will be covered?

I know in my school we have a three quarter (two semester) series of math methods for physics and Boas is what we use. First course is sophmore/junior level and the last two courses are major (junior/senior level) courses.

In the first course, we basically review the first two years of math in the span of 10 weeks (Calc I-III, and ELementary Diff EQs/Lin Alg) plus a few other topics and we begin to learn Mathmatica. If this sounds like the course you are going to take, I would say its not very difficult, but of course mastering (and I truly mean mastering) the topics covered are going to pay many dividends when you take your junior/senior level physics courses.

I would be prepared to know what upper division math is like. Its not about formulas or plugging and chugging. there's not much in the way of direct calculations. Its more about proofs. Here are properties of vector spaces/determinants/linear transformations...etc...now that you have the definitions, theorems and axioms, show that this and this is also true about this mathematical structure.

This level of math may not be directly applicable to physics at the undergrad level, but I certainly do believe that learning the abstractness of math allows you to think about physics problems in a different way. This can be very helpful for junior/senior level physics classes which are more theoretical than practical.

And yes, if you go far enough in physics, you will certainly gain something from learning the abstract side of math. For example, group theory has implications in the standard model: the pauli matrices (linear algebra) form a group isomorphic to SU2 groups (group theory). If you have some familiarity with lin alg and abstract algebra BEFORE you encounter these ideas in a grad level physics class for example, you can concetrate on the physical meaning of these ideas instead of having to figuere out what the hell group theory is and what its about ON TOP OF trying to learn the physics.
 
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