Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy

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In summary: Summarize what the author is saying. In summary, the author is saying that conventional materialism is incorrect because it requires the assumption that there are particles constituting your body and your consciousness, which are not the same. This theory is unsupported and unlikely due to the fact that A and B are small random subsets of the universe. Schrodinger's approach is more rigorous and can be supported by tying the process of life to other characteristics of life, such as information processing.
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Erwin Schrodinger argued that negative entropy is the distinctive characteristic of life. Does this provide a simpler explanation of life and consciousness than conventional materialism?

Conventional materialism holds that consciousness is tied to particles in the brain. This requires the assumption that there are particles constituting your body (A) and your consciousness (B), and A and B are the same. This theory, though widely accepted, is actually unsupported. It is also unlikely because A and B are small random subsets of the universe.

Schrodinger's approach is more rigorous. If life is due to a process rather than simply matter, then we should be able to tie this process to other characteristics of life such as information processing. This is the case because mental processes are strongly endothermic (eg, ATP production) and the greatest information processing takes place when T is low in the entropy equation, dQ/T.

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Conventional materialism holds that consciousness is tied to particles in the brain. This requires the assumption that there are particles constituting your body (A) and your consciousness (B), and A and B are the same. This theory, though widely accepted, is actually unsupported.
What authors assert this?
 
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What authors assert (materialism)?

Several. Everyone who believes that your consciousness ends permanently when the particles in your body dissociate. It's part of the "mind uploading" debate for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_uploading#Philosophical_issues
 
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Science certainly observes that consciousness arises from the activity of the brain. The way you phrase it, though, erroneously implies science asserts something like a 'consciousness particle'.
 
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Science certainly observes that consciousness arises from the activity of the brain. The way you phrase it, though, erroneously implies science asserts something like a 'consciousness particle'.

Science doesn't assert that, no, only people who believe that the mind is the particles in the brain.

What I'm saying is that consciousness has nothing to do with the particles, only processes. Because every process reoccurs infinitely with different particles, this means your consciousness reoccurs infinitely.
 
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Sorry, we do not allow philosophy.
 
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1. What is Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy?

Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy is a concept introduced by physicist Erwin Schrodinger in the mid-20th century. It is a theory that suggests that living systems are able to maintain their order and organization by constantly replenishing energy and matter from their surroundings. This is in contrast to the concept of entropy, which states that all systems tend towards disorder and chaos.

2. How does Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy relate to life and biology?

Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy is closely connected to the study of life and biology. It helps to explain how living systems are able to maintain their complexity and organization, despite the second law of thermodynamics which states that all systems tend towards disorder. This theory suggests that living organisms are able to decrease their own entropy by taking in energy and matter from their environment.

3. Is Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy widely accepted in the scientific community?

Yes, Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy is widely accepted in the scientific community. It has been supported by numerous experiments and observations in the fields of thermodynamics, biology, and ecology. However, there is still ongoing research and debate about the exact mechanisms and implications of this theory.

4. How does Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy differ from the concept of entropy?

Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy is the opposite of the concept of entropy. While entropy states that all systems tend towards disorder, Negentropy suggests that living systems are able to maintain their order and complexity by constantly exchanging energy and matter with their environment. In other words, Negentropy is the process of decreasing entropy in living systems.

5. What are the potential applications of Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy?

Schrodinger's theory of Negentropy has potential applications in various fields, including biology, ecology, and even technology. It can help us better understand how living systems maintain their complexity and organization, and how we can apply this knowledge to improve sustainability and efficiency in our own systems and technologies.

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