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Jerome Wang
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- The theory that describes gravity as an entropic force seems to have emerged hundreds of years ago.
In 2011, a paper titled On the origin of gravity and the laws of Newton was published in the Journal of High Energy Physics, which described gravity as an entropic force based on the entropy of black holes and the holographic principle.
This idea was subsequently named "entropic gravity".
In 2013, a paper titled Gravity from quantum information was published in the Journal of the Korean Physical Society, which reproduced entropic gravity based on the entropy of entanglement and Landauer's principle.
This implies that entropic gravity has a quantuminformation theoretic origin.
But it is well known that the concept of entropy was originally proposed based on the thermodynamics of gases.
It stands to reason that entropic gravity should also be deduced from the entropy of gases.
However, trying to deduce entropic gravity from the entropy of a gas would seem to lead back to Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation, which was proposed hundreds of years ago.
Just like the kinetic theory of gases treats a gas as composed of numerous particles, Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation posits that gravity is the result of tiny particles (or corpuscles) moving at high speed in all directions, throughout the universe.
Intuitively, entropic gravity deduced from the entropy of a black hole and Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation are both related to surface area and face many similar gravitational and thermodynamic problems.
But this intuitive commonality is not enough to constitute a reason for Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation to be related to entropic gravity, just as it is considered a coincidence that the same gravitational radius as the general theory of relativity is derived from Newton's law of universal gravitation.
However, the shared statistical nature of Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and the kinetic theory of gases seems to allow that Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation is intrinsically related to entropic gravity rather than being a mere intuitive coincidence.
That being said, Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation also needs to be modified to be consistent with modern physics, even though Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation may be essentially related to entropic gravity.
In this regard, although Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation has encountered various problems since its proposal and has gradually lost interest as the centuries have passed, there are still a few papers that combine or link it with modern physics and publish them in journals with peer review mechanisms and covered by SCI.
In 2014, a paper titled Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity was published in Astrophysics and Space Science, which developed a Le Sage-type gravity model and stated that if gravitons are viewed as waves within the spacetime metric in general relativity, then one possibility in the optical-mechanical analogy is that gravitons comprise the optical medium.
In 2023, a paper titled Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios was published in Foundations, which identifies the constituents of space-time with gravitons and borrowed entropic gravity to enable graviton-level simulations of entire emergent gravitational systems.
The contents of Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios and Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity seem to be consistent.
In 2025, a paper titled Instantaneous correlations of Shannon’s big data in nonlocal cosmos is published in Frontiers in Astronomy and Space Sciences, which describes the connection between quantum information and the corpuscles of Fatio and Le Sage and seems to be linked to Gravity from quantum information.
Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and entropic gravity seem to be consistent, but the academic research on Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation or entropic gravity has never seen a formal intersection between the two.
The only intersection between the two in journals with peer review mechanisms and covered by SCI seems to be a paper titled Billiards and Toy Gravitons published in the Journal of Statistical Physics, and the relationship between the two is still not clearly stated.
Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and entropic gravity seem to be essentially related, but there is almost no intersection between the two in academic research, which prompted me to ask:
(Extend: In 2004, a paper titled Gravity as Archimedes’ Thrust and a Bifurcation in that Theory was published in Foundations of Physics, in which the micro-ether seemed to be no different from the corpuscles in Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and to be consistent with Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios and Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity.)
This idea was subsequently named "entropic gravity".
In 2013, a paper titled Gravity from quantum information was published in the Journal of the Korean Physical Society, which reproduced entropic gravity based on the entropy of entanglement and Landauer's principle.
This implies that entropic gravity has a quantuminformation theoretic origin.
But it is well known that the concept of entropy was originally proposed based on the thermodynamics of gases.
It stands to reason that entropic gravity should also be deduced from the entropy of gases.
However, trying to deduce entropic gravity from the entropy of a gas would seem to lead back to Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation, which was proposed hundreds of years ago.
Just like the kinetic theory of gases treats a gas as composed of numerous particles, Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation posits that gravity is the result of tiny particles (or corpuscles) moving at high speed in all directions, throughout the universe.
Intuitively, entropic gravity deduced from the entropy of a black hole and Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation are both related to surface area and face many similar gravitational and thermodynamic problems.
But this intuitive commonality is not enough to constitute a reason for Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation to be related to entropic gravity, just as it is considered a coincidence that the same gravitational radius as the general theory of relativity is derived from Newton's law of universal gravitation.
However, the shared statistical nature of Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and the kinetic theory of gases seems to allow that Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation is intrinsically related to entropic gravity rather than being a mere intuitive coincidence.
That being said, Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation also needs to be modified to be consistent with modern physics, even though Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation may be essentially related to entropic gravity.
In this regard, although Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation has encountered various problems since its proposal and has gradually lost interest as the centuries have passed, there are still a few papers that combine or link it with modern physics and publish them in journals with peer review mechanisms and covered by SCI.
In 2014, a paper titled Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity was published in Astrophysics and Space Science, which developed a Le Sage-type gravity model and stated that if gravitons are viewed as waves within the spacetime metric in general relativity, then one possibility in the optical-mechanical analogy is that gravitons comprise the optical medium.
In 2023, a paper titled Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios was published in Foundations, which identifies the constituents of space-time with gravitons and borrowed entropic gravity to enable graviton-level simulations of entire emergent gravitational systems.
The contents of Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios and Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity seem to be consistent.
In 2025, a paper titled Instantaneous correlations of Shannon’s big data in nonlocal cosmos is published in Frontiers in Astronomy and Space Sciences, which describes the connection between quantum information and the corpuscles of Fatio and Le Sage and seems to be linked to Gravity from quantum information.
Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and entropic gravity seem to be consistent, but the academic research on Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation or entropic gravity has never seen a formal intersection between the two.
The only intersection between the two in journals with peer review mechanisms and covered by SCI seems to be a paper titled Billiards and Toy Gravitons published in the Journal of Statistical Physics, and the relationship between the two is still not clearly stated.
Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and entropic gravity seem to be essentially related, but there is almost no intersection between the two in academic research, which prompted me to ask:
Is Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation an entropic gravity?
(Extend: In 2004, a paper titled Gravity as Archimedes’ Thrust and a Bifurcation in that Theory was published in Foundations of Physics, in which the micro-ether seemed to be no different from the corpuscles in Fatio–Le Sage's theory of gravitation and to be consistent with Emergent Gravity Simulations for Schwarzschild–de Sitter Scenarios and Gravity from refraction of CMB photons using the optical-mechanical analogy in general relativity.)
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