Searching for Extra Dimensions: Experiments & Results

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the search for extra dimensions in physics, particularly through experimental approaches and results. Participants explore the feasibility of conducting such experiments in typical university physics laboratories, as well as the implications of current research findings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a professor's claim about "simple" experiments for searching extra dimensions, expressing skepticism about their feasibility in an average physics department laboratory.
  • Another participant suggests that researchers are applying nanotechnology to search for extra dimensions, noting that the absence of evidence does not disprove the existence of such dimensions.
  • A proposed experimental approach involves testing the inverse square law at small distances by balancing gravitational and electromagnetic forces, with the aim of detecting potential effects of extra dimensions.
  • Several participants reference ongoing sub-millimeter measurements related to gravitational forces and provide links to relevant research, indicating that multiple groups are engaged in similar investigations.
  • There is a question about whether it is possible to detect or measure the presence of extra dimensions, with one participant noting that current results appear negative for certain manifestations of higher dimensions, but research is ongoing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism and interest regarding the feasibility of experiments to detect extra dimensions. While some acknowledge ongoing research efforts, there is no consensus on the effectiveness or outcomes of these experiments.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of current experimental methods and the potential for undiscovered effects at smaller scales, suggesting that existing results may not fully capture the complexities of the search for extra dimensions.

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I heard from a professor at my deparmant that there are some "simple" experiments in searching for extra dimensions. after a research, the only thing that I've found is this:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/kgb/Research/gravity.html

after checking the experimental procedure, now, i am almost sure that he was just teasing me... are there really such experiments that you can conduct at an average physics dept. laboratory?
 
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I think there really are people who are trying to do this, and the link you provide shows that some of them are trying to apply a kind of nanotechnology to the problem. But the research is prospective...that is, they are trying to find an effect, but if they do not find one, it does not mean that the idea is dead. There may just be an effect present at very slightly smaller distances, and they would not know. So if they find something, great, but if not, it does not prove it isn't there. 'Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense', someone said.

If I had access to an ordinary university physics lab, I would like to try to test for extra dimensions by checking the inverse square law at small distances by opposing gravity (a constant, presumably) against electromagnetism (a variable of considerable sensitivity). One might suspend a small mass at known variable distance from an EM field generator (electromagnet) and vary the em field until the force of gravity just overcomes the em force.

My attempts to do this at home have been laughably crude, but I should think some student with modern technology could at least verify the inverse square law to distances such as are suggested in your link.

It would be good to keep in contact with you if you are in a position to try this. Maybe I could provide some suggestive assistance. Best luck to you.

R.
 
Hi there,

indeed, there are several people doing the sub-mm measurements, also in
Stanford. See eg.

"[URL[/URL] Gravity on Small Length Scales
S. J. Smullin, A. A. Geraci, D. M. Weld, J. Chiaverini, A. Kapitulnik[/URL]

here are some results:

[PLAIN]"[URL[/URL] Experimental Constraints on Non-Newtonian Forces below 100 microns
J. Chiaverini, S. J. Smullin, A. A. Geraci, D. M. Weld, A. Kapitulnik[/URL]


There are some other groups around the world doing similar stuff. Some interesting links

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v421/n6926/full/nature01432.html;jsessionid=255285170F663EBFCF713CE130302BC8"

[URL]http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog22/node9.html"[/URL]

[PLAIN]"[URL[/URL] of the inverse square law of gravitation.
Contact C. Speake[/URL]



B.
 
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See also:

Submillimeter tests of the gravitational inverse-square law, by Hoyle et al., Physical Review D, vol. 70, Issue 4, id. 042004 (2004).

Best wishes,
Christine
 
Interesting, can they actualy detect or measure the presence of extra dimensions? That would make things a lot cooler.
 
Universe_Man said:
Interesting, can they actualy detect or measure the presence of extra dimensions? That would make things a lot cooler.


Others better informed than I can correct me on this, but my impression is that so far, results are negative for this particular manifestation of higher dimensions. Work is continuting though.
 

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