Second Order Differential equation Bessel-type

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The discussion revolves around solving a second order differential equation of the form \(-\dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}+\dfrac{3}{x}\dfrac{dy}{dx}+(x^2+gx^4+2)y=0\). Participants explore various methods and approaches, including potential connections to Bessel-type equations and confluent hypergeometric equations, while considering the context of a negative dimensional anharmonic oscillator.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the equation might be converted to a Bessel-like equation with an appropriate change of variables.
  • Another participant proposes a method for finding a general solution based on a particular solution and the structure of the equation.
  • A different participant identifies the equation as potentially being a general confluent hypergeometric differential equation, providing general solutions involving confluent hypergeometric functions.
  • Some participants inquire about the constant \(g\) and suggest using perturbative expansions for approximate solutions.
  • One participant mentions the Frobenius method as a possible approach for obtaining solutions, although they express uncertainty about the type of solution needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to solving the differential equation, with no consensus reached on a single method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the identification of functions within the confluent hypergeometric solutions and the applicability of various methods, such as the Frobenius method, to the specific equation at hand.

Juan Carlos
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Hello!

Im trying to solve this second order differential equation:

\begin{equation*}
-\dfrac{d^2y}{dx^2}+\dfrac{3}{x}\dfrac{dy}{dx}+(x^2+gx^4+2)y=0
\end{equation*}

Any idea?

Maybe it could be converted to a Bessel-like equation (?) with an appropriate change of variables.

The equation arises when your are considering a -2 dimensional (yes!, its correct: "Negative dimension") anhamonic oscillator.

Thanks!
 
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Hi, there is a proposition that says, if you have an equation of this kind:

## y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0##
where ##P## and ##Q## continuous on ##I## and if ##\lambda(x)## is a particular solution with ##\lambda(x)\not=0##, then the general solution is:

##y(x)=\lambda(x)\left(c_{1}+c_{2}\int\frac{e^{-\int P(x)dx}}{\lambda(x)^2}dx\right)##

where ##c_{1},c_{2}## are constants.

So you can start to search a particular solution and then apply this...
 
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I not sure how helpful this will be, but I think you're equation is a general confluent hypergeometric differential equation: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GeneralConfluentHypergeometricDifferentialEquation.html.

The general solutions are:

y_1 = x^{-A} e^{-m\left(x\right)} F\left(a;b; h\left(x\right)\right)
y_2 = x^{-A} e^{-m\left(x\right)} U\left(a;b; h\left(x\right)\right)

where F\left(a;b;h\left(x\right)\right) and U\left(a;b;h\left(x\right)\right) are confluent hypergeometric functions of the first and second kind.
Admittedly it can be challenging to identify the functions m\left(x\right) and h\left(x\right) . I'd try a few simple functions to see if you can make it work.

Alternatively what is the constant g? Is it a small number? Can you use a perturbative expansion to find an approximate solution?
 
Ssnow said:
Hi, there is a proposition that says, if you have an equation of this kind:

## y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0##
where ##P## and ##Q## continuous on ##I## and if ##\lambda(x)## is a particular solution with ##\lambda(x)\not=0##, then the general solution is:

##y(x)=\lambda(x)\left(c_{1}+c_{2}\int\frac{e^{-\int P(x)dx}}{\lambda(x)^2}dx\right)##

where ##c_{1},c_{2}## are constants.

So you can start to search a particular solution and then apply this...
Ssnow said:
Hi, there is a proposition that says, if you have an equation of this kind:

## y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0##
where ##P## and ##Q## continuous on ##I## and if ##\lambda(x)## is a particular solution with ##\lambda(x)\not=0##, then the general solution is:

##y(x)=\lambda(x)\left(c_{1}+c_{2}\int\frac{e^{-\int P(x)dx}}{\lambda(x)^2}dx\right)##

where ##c_{1},c_{2}## are constants.

So you can start to search a particular solution and then apply this...

Variation of parameters! I'll give it a try!

Thanks
 
the_wolfman said:
I not sure how helpful this will be, but I think you're equation is a general confluent hypergeometric differential equation: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GeneralConfluentHypergeometricDifferentialEquation.html.

The general solutions are:

y_1 = x^{-A} e^{-m\left(x\right)} F\left(a;b; h\left(x\right)\right)
y_2 = x^{-A} e^{-m\left(x\right)} U\left(a;b; h\left(x\right)\right)

where F\left(a;b;h\left(x\right)\right) and U\left(a;b;h\left(x\right)\right) are confluent hypergeometric functions of the first and second kind.
Admittedly it can be challenging to identify the functions m\left(x\right) and h\left(x\right) . I'd try a few simple functions to see if you can make it work.

Alternatively what is the constant g? Is it a small number? Can you use a perturbative expansion to find an approximate solution?

Thanks I will try with this "factorization" procedure.
 

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