'second' partial derivative of a function

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The discussion centers on understanding the concept of second partial derivatives in the context of the function z = f(x,y) = x^3y - e^(xy). The user initially struggles with the calculation of the second partial derivative, particularly how to apply the product rule correctly when differentiating the exponential term. It is clarified that when taking the partial derivative of the term -e^(xy) with respect to x, the product rule must be applied due to the presence of the variable xy. The user acknowledges the mistake and expresses relief that the concept is simpler than it initially seemed, noting that all standard differentiation rules apply to partial derivatives. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying differentiation techniques in multivariable calculus.
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Hello,

we haven't really covered partial differentiation in my maths course yet, but it has come up a few times in mechanics where the 'grad' operator is being introduced, so I'm trying to learn about it myself. I'm looking at the partial derivatives section in "Mathematical Methods In The Physical Sciences" book by Mary Boas.

I don't understand what is being done when a 'second' partial derivative is taken. This is the example I'm looking at;

Given $$z = f(x,y) = x^{3}y - e^{xy}$$, then

$$\frac{∂z}{∂x} = 3x^{2}y - ye^{xy}$$

$$\frac{∂z}{∂y} = x^{3} - xe^{xy}$$ (I understand this, y and then x are being regarded as constants)

it goes on to say $$\frac{∂}{∂x} \frac{∂z}{∂y} = \frac{∂^{2}z}{∂x ∂y} = 3x^2 - e^{xy} - xye^{xy}$$

I don't understand what has happened here. I thought that this means taking the partial derivative of $$\frac{∂f}{∂y}$$ with respect to $$x$$, yielding $$\frac{∂}{∂x} [x^{3} - xe^{xy}] = 3x^2 - xye^{xy}$$ but this is clearly not correct as it does not account for the extra $$-e^{xy}$$ term.

What am I misunderstanding?

Thanks for any help you can give!

p.s How do I keep my pesky latex in line?
 
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BOAS said:
I don't understand what is being done when a 'second' partial derivative is taken. This is the example I'm looking at;

Given $$z = f(x,y) = x^{3}y - e^{xy}$$, then

$$\frac{∂z}{∂x} = 3x^{2}y - ye^{xy}$$

$$\frac{∂z}{∂y} = x^{3} - xe^{xy}$$ (I understand this, y and then x are being regarded as constants)

it goes on to say $$\frac{∂}{∂x} \frac{∂z}{∂y} = \frac{∂^{2}z}{∂x ∂y} = 3x^2 - e^{xy} - xye^{xy}$$

I don't understand what has happened here. I thought that this means taking the partial derivative of $$\frac{∂f}{∂y}$$ with respect to $$x$$, yielding $$\frac{∂}{∂x} [x^{3} - xe^{xy}] = 3x^2 - xye^{xy}$$ but this is clearly not correct as it does not account for the extra $$-e^{xy}$$ term.

What am I misunderstanding?

Thanks for any help you can give!

p.s How do I keep my pesky latex in line?

For the exponential term, when you take the partial derivative w.r.t. x, you must apply the product rule, since you have xy * exy.
 
SteamKing said:
For the exponential term, when you take the partial derivative w.r.t. x, you must apply the product rule, since you have xy * exy.

aha! In a way I'm glad it was a silly mistake like that.

Thanks :)
 
Partial derivatives seem like a big deal at first, but they're actually extremely simple. Like you said, it's just differentiation with variable constants. All the normal rules of differentiation apply.
 
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