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Self-reference, measurment and entanglement

  1. Sep 10, 2009 #1
    I have some questions:

    Was it von Neuman that first brought up the idea that self-reference could be the reason behind the measurment problem?

    The idea seems to be that since a measurment device can't measure all possible interactions between a particle an itself the system (device and particle) will collapse and take on a random value. The measurment problem is a consequence of "the impossibility of self-measurement".

    Is this view still present in quantum physics?

    Can entanglement be cyclic or self-referential?

    Is EPR style entanglement self-referential?

    Eventually, is the self-reference possible to pinpoint by doing the math?
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