Series expansion of logarithmic function

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The discussion revolves around finding the first three non-zero terms in the series expansion of the logarithmic function ln(5+p) when the argument is small.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the idea of rewriting ln(5+p) as ln(1+(4+p)) for expansion, while questioning the validity of this approach when p is not close to -4. Others suggest using properties of logarithms to facilitate the expansion.

Discussion Status

There are multiple approaches being discussed, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their methods. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of logarithmic properties to simplify the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the accuracy of the polynomial expansion may diminish as p moves away from -4, raising questions about the relevance of accuracy in the context of the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement


Find first three non zero terms in series expansion where the argument of funstion is small

ln(5+p)

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The Attempt at a Solution



The only way I could think how to do this is by saying ln(5+p) = ln(1+(4+p)) and expanding to

(4+p)- 1/2(4+p)^2 + 1/3(4+p)^3 - ... however, I imagine that this would only work if p was approx -4.
 
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Come on guys! I really need to know how to do this!
 
seboastien said:

Homework Statement


Find first three non zero terms in series expansion where the argument of funstion is small

ln(5+p)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



The only way I could think how to do this is by saying ln(5+p) = ln(1+(4+p)) and expanding to

(4+p)- 1/2(4+p)^2 + 1/3(4+p)^3 - ... however, I imagine that this would only work if p was approx -4.
Well, the accuracy, for any finite polynomial expansion, deteriorates as p gets farther from -4 but is the accuracy really relevant? You are only asked to "Find first three non zero terms".
 
How do I find the first three non-zero terms of ln(5+p), I'm pretty sure that my answer is wrong.
 
You'll want to write this as ln( 5 [ 1+(p/5) ] ) ; then use the properties of logarithms to write it as two terms, one of which is the term you would do the series expansion for.
 
Thank you
 

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