MHB Setting up systems of equations

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two individuals, Ann and Betty, and their expenditures. Ann initially has 20 less than Betty, and after spending portions of their money, the remainder of Ann's is 5/6 of Betty's remainder. The key equation derived is 1/4x = 5/6(1/5(x + 20)), leading to confusion about how the term 50/3 appears in the solution. Participants agree on the setup but question the steps leading to that term, suggesting that a correct sequence of operations might clarify the confusion. The consensus is that while the answer is correct, the process leading to it may contain errors.
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I have this problem in my book:
Ann had 20(Cash) less than Betty. Ann spent 3/4 of her money, while Betty spent 4/5 of hers. Then Ann's remainder was 5/6 of Betty's remainder. If Ann had x(Cash) originally, form an equation in x and solve it.

And this solution in the answer key:

x=Ann's (Cash) x+20=Betty's (Cash)

Remainder of Ann's money = 1/4x
Remainder of Betty's money = 1/5(x+20)

1/4x = 5/6 (1/5(x + 20))
x/4 = x/6 + 50/3

12(x/4) = 12(x/6) + 12(50/3)
3x = 2x + 40
Survey says:

x = 40

The question is: How did the 50 in 50/3 get there?
(Wondering) (Worried) Can someone please explain that step so both me and my homeschool teacher can understand it?
 
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Re: Ann & Betty got rich $$$--But where did the 50 come from?

TracyThomas said:
I have this problem in my book:
Ann had 20(Cash) less than Betty. Ann spent 3/4 of her money, while Betty spent 4/5 of hers. Then Ann's remainder was 5/6 of Betty's remainder. If Ann had x(Cash) originally, form an equation in x and solve it.

And this solution in the answer key:

x=Ann's (Cash) x+20=Betty's (Cash)

Remainder of Ann's money = 1/4x
Remainder of Betty's money = 1/5(x+20)

1/4x = 5/6 (1/5(x + 20))
x/4 = x/6 + 50/3

I agree with the setup (usually the hard part!) You are right to question this last step, though. I would do this:

x/4 = 5/6 (x/5 + 4)
x/4 = x/6 + 20/6 = x/6 + 10/3
12 (x/4 = x/6 + 10/3)
3x = 2x + 40
x = 40.

I think it's a question of incorrect processes somehow coming to the right answer.

Does this make sense? I'm not sure I understand how the 50 got in there, but perhaps a correct (I hope) sequence of steps will clear things up.

12(x/4) = 12(x/6) + 12(50/3)
3x = 2x + 40
Survey says:

x = 40

The question is: How did the 50 in 50/3 get there?
(Wondering) (Worried) Can someone please explain that step so both me and my homeschool teacher can understand it?
 
Re: Ann & Betty got rich $$$--But where did the 50 come from?

Thanks! I haven't found ANY errors in the Singapore Math textbook answer keys in many years of using the program, but this answer key is written by someone else, I think, so I suppose it could be in error.

Ackbach said:
I agree with the setup (usually the hard part!) You are right to question this last step, though. I would do this:

x/4 = 5/6 (x/5 + 4)
x/4 = x/6 + 20/6 = x/6 + 10/3
12 (x/4 = x/6 + 10/3)
3x = 2x + 40
x = 40.

I think it's a question of incorrect processes somehow coming to the right answer.

Does this make sense? I'm not sure I understand how the 50 got in there, but perhaps a correct (I hope) sequence of steps will clear things up.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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