Shielding Dirty Electricity Ground Current

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using rubber tires as a method to shield a piece of land from electric and magnetic fields, particularly in relation to "dirty electricity" from nearby power sources. Participants explore concepts of electric charge accumulation, magnetic fields, and the effectiveness of various shielding methods.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using rubber tires, partly buried and partly above ground, to create a perimeter that could shield the land from charge accumulation and magnetic fields.
  • Another participant questions the source of the electric or magnetic fields and the purpose of the proposed shielding, asking for specific details about the situation.
  • A participant reiterates that the source of the fields is electricity from power lines and household sources, emphasizing the presence of dirty electricity on the Earth's surface.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of rubber tires for shielding, with one participant stating that such a method would not alter magnetic or electric fields in the area.
  • There is a suggestion to consider a Faraday cage as a more effective shielding method compared to using tires.
  • Participants express skepticism about the original proposal and request further clarification and information from the person asking the question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of using rubber tires for shielding. There are competing views on the nature of the problem and the proposed solutions, with some participants expressing doubt about the validity of the original understanding of the issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for more information regarding the specific electric or magnetic field sources, the measurements involved, and the intended outcomes of the shielding effort. There are unresolved questions about the nature of the fields and the appropriateness of the proposed shielding method.

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Using rubber to shield a small area of land from magnetic fields caused by proximity to electricty.
Would using an insulator like rubber tires partly buried in the ground + partly protruding above the land surface to create a continuous perimeter around a piece of land possibly shield the land inside of it from the accumulation of charge on the surface of the Earth which occurs in the vicinity of electricity sources, and which can be measured with a gaussmeter? My understanding is that it is an accumulation of electrons that spread over the surface of the earth.
 
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You mention ground currents, magnetic fields, accumulation of charge, using a Gaussmeter, etc. These are all pretty different things.

Can you tell us what the source of the electric (or magnetic?) fields is? How close is the source to the ground? What is the purpose of the shielding? Are your worms dying or something?
 
The dirty electricity that is on the surface of the Earth that creates a magnetic field which can be measured with a gaussmeter. The source is electricity - power lines, household electricity - as stated in my original question.
 
svt said:
The source is electricity - power lines, household electricity - as stated in my original question.
Well I'm still not seeing that in your OP, but whatever.
svt said:
The dirty electricity that is on the surface of the Earth that creates a magnetic field which can be measured with a gaussmeter.
What is your Gaussmeter reading? Is it AC or DC? Are the powerlines nearby high voltage transmission lines, or the supply lines to your home? What is in the dirt that you want to shield from this magnetic field?

Magnetic shielding involves using ferrous metal pieces to re-route the magnetic field around anything that you want to shield. There is good info at the website below about how magnetic shielding works:

https://www.magnetic-shield.com/all-about-shielding-faqs/
 
Can anyone answer my original question?
 
svt said:
Can anyone answer my original question?
Not really, no. You should respond to @berkeman 's questions. It seems like you may be trying to do something that won't work based on a concern about something that doesn't exist. I'd only add: where did you get your "understanding"? It looks pretty wrong.
 
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svt said:
Can anyone answer my original question?
Well, without more information from you it's a bit hard to provide you good quality help, but...
svt said:
Summary:: Using rubber to shield a small area of land from magnetic fields caused by proximity to electricty.

Would using an insulator like rubber tires partly buried in the ground + partly protruding above the land surface to create a continuous perimeter around a piece of land possibly shield the land inside of it
No. Half burying rubber tires in the dirt in the shape of a circle around a piece of land will do absolutely zero to change the magnetic fields (or electric fields or any static electric charge accumulation) in the area. It may qualify you for a certain metalic headwear club, or maybe get you written up in the Crop Circle Weekly Gazette, but it certainly will not change anything EM-field-wise on your property.

We really do want to help you with whatever it is that you want to accomplish. If you could start by answering all of the questions I've asked above, and make it clear what your end goal is, that would be great. Thank you.
 
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Actually, one more question -- would these be steel belted radial tires? That might make a difference... :smile:

No, actually I'm serious about this question. Steel is slightly ferrous (not sure how much for steel belted radial tires), and the steel belts could form conductive loops that could act like shorted turns, depending on frequency and other stuff... :smile:
 
svt said:
Can anyone answer my original question?
Maybe you should consider a Faraday cage as a shield, rather than tires as insulation, which won't work inside your square. This is a nice one:

prefab-cage-buidlig-inside.png
 

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