Short Reduced Echelon Form Explanation?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the concept of reduced row echelon form (RREF) in matrices. The original matrix is transformed into RREF, where pivots are identified as leading 1's in each row. A key point made is that the second 1 in row 2 is not considered a pivot because it is not the leading entry of that row. Additionally, the presence of a nonzero entry above a pivot does not disqualify the matrix from being in RREF, as only the leading entries must have zeros above and below them. The explanation clarifies the criteria for identifying pivots and the definition of RREF.
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If my original echelon form is:

1 1 -2 1 | 2
0 3 3 3 | -3
0 0 0 1 | -4

and according to my notes that my teacher provided, the reduced form is:

1 0 -3 0 | 3
0 1 1 0 | 3
0 0 0 1 | -4

he noted that in the reduced form, the 1's in columns 1, 2, and 4 are pivots.

thanks for the help!

Or another question is, why is THIS in reduced row echelon form?

1 0 -2 0 | 9
0 1 -1 0 | 5
0 0 0 1 | 3

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Now my question is why is the second 1 in row 2 not a pivot? why is there a -3 above the 1 in column 3? He stated that this matrix is in the reduced echelon form, so can someone just explain why its an rref if there's that -3?

Thanks for your help and time!
 
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mneox said:

Homework Statement



If my original echelon form is:

1 1 -2 1 | 2
0 3 3 3 | -3
0 0 0 1 | -4

and according to my notes that my teacher provided, the reduced form is:

1 0 -3 0 | 3
0 1 1 0 | 3
0 0 0 1 | -4

he noted that in the reduced form, the 1's in columns 1, 2, and 4 are pivots.

thanks for the help!
What is your question here?
mneox said:
Or another question is, why is THIS in reduced row echelon form?

1 0 -2 0 | 9
0 1 -1 0 | 5
0 0 0 1 | 3
How is the term "reduced, row-echelon form" defined in your book?
mneox said:

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Now my question is why is the second 1 in row 2 not a pivot? why is there a -3 above the 1 in column 3? He stated that this matrix is in the reduced echelon form, so can someone just explain why its an rref if there's that -3?

In reduced, row-echelon form, a pivot is any leading entry of a row. The second 1 entry of row 2 is not a leading entry, so it isn't a pivot. It's only the leading entries (the pivots) for which the entries above and below are zero, so it doesn't matter that there is a nonzero entry above the second 1 entry in row 2.
 
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