Should I include online helpers as collaborators on a scientific paper?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the ethical considerations of including online helpers as collaborators on a scientific paper, particularly in the context of a mathematical modeling project. Participants explore the nuances of collaboration versus assistance, and the appropriate way to acknowledge contributions in academic writing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the decision to include someone as a collaborator is a personal choice and emphasizes the value of generosity towards others.
  • Another participant notes that practices regarding authorship can vary significantly across different fields and recommends discussing the situation with an advisor.
  • Several participants propose that if the online helper's contribution is deemed significant, it is essential to ask them if they wish to be listed as an author.
  • It is mentioned that contributions from online helpers are often appropriately acknowledged in the "acknowledgments" section of a paper, which does not require permission from the individual being acknowledged.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether online helpers should be considered collaborators or acknowledged in a different manner. There is no consensus on the best approach, with various opinions on the ethical implications and field-specific norms.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the distinction between collaboration and assistance can be subjective and context-dependent, and they emphasize the importance of discussing such matters with mentors or lead investigators.

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I am working on a bit of a mathematical modeling project, and if I get my small contribution done my name will likely end up as one of the contributors to a paper, with a lot of other names, mostly oncologists and one mathematical biologist, who is my mentor.

However, given some of my struggles with Matlab, I've received online help from someone online. I waited as long as I could to ask for help, because I was trying to use this as a learning opportunity. However, the person who responded to my inquiry was very gracious, and even wrote re-wrote some of my code for me. (I'm still not sure if it works.)

At one point does one go from a helper to a collaborator? If this does work, should I include this person's name? The person who is helping me doesn't really know what the research is about, as I communicated the bare amount of information needed to solve the specific problem. I would like to do the right thing here, so any advice is appreciated.

-Dave K
 
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Seems like a personal choice to me if it's sort of "close to the line", but in general I think that generosity towards others is always a helpful life choice.
 
This sort of thing differs greatly from one field to another. Maybe you should mention it to your advisor, tell her/him the help you were given and let her/him make the call.
 
phinds said:
Seems like a personal choice to me if it's sort of "close to the line", but in general I think that generosity towards others is always a helpful life choice.

Yes, me too.
 
dkotschessaa said:
I am working on a bit of a mathematical modeling project, and if I get my small contribution done my name will likely end up as one of the contributors to a paper, with a lot of other names, mostly oncologists and one mathematical biologist, who is my mentor.

It seems to me you should start by asking your mentor or the lead investigator of the paper first. If you feel strongly that this person has made a significant contribution to the paper and are bent on listing them as an author, then you certainly need to ask them if they'd like to be listed as one.

Typically, though, in these types of situations, you would list this person's contributions under the "acknowledgments" section of the paper. That's what that section is there for. You really don't need anyone's permission to list them there, and they are almost always appreciative of the nod.
 
DiracPool said:
It seems to me you should start by asking your mentor or the lead investigator of the paper first. If you feel strongly that this person has made a significant contribution to the paper and are bent on listing them as an author, then you certainly need to ask them if they'd like to be listed as one.

Typically, though, in these types of situations, you would list this person's contributions under the "acknowledgments" section of the paper. That's what that section is there for. You really don't need anyone's permission to list them there, and they are almost always appreciative of the nod.

Good point. I'll check on going along those lines.

Thanks all.

-Dave K
 

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