Should I Learn Calculus Before Teaching Myself First Year Physics?

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter fellupahill
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether one should learn calculus before attempting to self-study first-year physics, particularly in the context of college-level education. Participants explore the relationship between mathematics and physics, considering the necessity of calculus versus algebra in understanding physics concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to self-study first-year physics despite having minimal calculus knowledge, questioning the necessity of learning calculus beforehand.
  • Another participant argues that algebra is more critical for first-year physics, emphasizing the frequent need to rearrange formulas, while suggesting that a basic understanding of calculus could be beneficial.
  • A third participant provides a quotation that highlights the foundational role of mathematics in the natural sciences, implying the importance of mathematical knowledge in studying physics.
  • A later reply questions whether the focus should be on self-studying mathematics or physics, suggesting that engaging with physics might be more interesting and beneficial before formal education.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit differing views on the necessity of learning calculus before studying physics. While some emphasize the importance of algebra, others suggest that a basic understanding of calculus is advantageous. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to self-study.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific mathematical prerequisites for studying physics, and there are varying opinions on the importance of calculus versus algebra. The discussion reflects differing educational philosophies and personal preferences.

fellupahill
Messages
56
Reaction score
0
Im in college, but things are moving too slow for me. I want to teach myself the basics of a first year physics course. I have almost no calculus knowledge. Should I try to learn calculus before a first year physics course, or would it not hurt to teach myself from an algebra only textbook (Didn't know they existed tbh, another topic mentioned them.)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
In first year Physics Algebra is more important than Calculus, you are constantly rearranging things in formulas. It wouldn't hurt to learn some basic calculus though, i.e. learn what a derivative, and an integral are and how to integrate/differentiate basic functions. When you study electrodynamics for example though calculus is used extensively, but for now I wouldn't worry to much about it :)
 
fellupahill, Regarding the importance of mathematics, here’s a quotation I recently read:

“The structure of the natural sciences is as follows. Physics rests on mathematics, chemistry on physics, biology on chemistry, and, in principle, the social sciences on biology.”

“The Folly of Fools”, by Robert Trivers, 2011, Basic Books
 
fellupahill said:
Im in college, but things are moving too slow for me. I want to teach myself the basics of a first year physics course. I have almost no calculus knowledge.
Are you asking which mathematics to self-study before you do the physics course, or are you asking whether your self-study should be of physics or of maths?

If the latter, then I'd go for physics. It is surely more interesting and with more variety, and there are lots of readable introductory physics textbooks (in second hand bookshops).

Get yourself a taste of physics before the formal introduction.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
7K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
5K
  • · Replies 71 ·
3
Replies
71
Views
4K