Should We Condemn the Abuse of Wildlife for Human Entertainment?

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The discussion centers around the ethical implications of human interactions with wildlife, specifically in the context of a viral incident involving a man allegedly mishandling a sea turtle in Trinidad. Participants express their concerns about the behavior of individuals in such situations and the societal responses that follow, including online backlash and mob mentality.

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  • Some participants express strong disapproval of the man's actions, labeling him as reckless and thoughtless.
  • Others suggest that such behavior reflects a character flaw that is common among people.
  • There is mention of peer pressure influencing behavior, with some participants attributing it to primitive impulses.
  • One participant recounts personal experiences with tourists ignoring wildlife protection signs, highlighting a disconnect between awareness and action.
  • Several comments discuss the formation of a Facebook group targeting the individual, indicating a growing online mob response, with membership numbers rapidly increasing.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for disproportionate reactions from the online community, with references to past incidents of mob behavior leading to severe consequences for individuals.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter about the situation, while others reflect on the seriousness of the underlying issues.

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Participants generally agree on the problematic nature of the man's actions and the societal implications of such behavior. However, there is no consensus on the appropriateness of the online backlash or the potential consequences for the individual involved.

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The discussion includes references to specific incidents and behaviors that may not be universally understood, as well as varying levels of awareness about the online community's dynamics.

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I came across this thread from another forum.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=116735271

It's a guy that is possibly drunk standing and playing around with a sea turtle on shore in Trinidad.

The "news" is already posted on other forums, and apparently e-mailed to some media outlets.

It bothers me a lot that the guy is just completely wrecklace and thoughtless on the situation.
 
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Some people tend to behave differently in groups, especially where there is intense peer pressure. This is a result of primitive impulses that were useful during the cavemen times.
 
- Can't put everyone in jail.

I also think it's just a character flaw and you can't do much other than providing better education to the children (providing a good environment and proper real life education to the children in schools would solve many other problems: crimes, shootings, racism, ... almost all social problems).
 
People are idiots. When I was in HI last year, there were signs everywhere around the beaches warning people about the laws protecting the sea turtles there, telling them not to touch them, not to intentionally approach them (I can't recall the distance you were supposed to stay), and generally not to disrupt them in any way. Yet, it seemed like every other tourist thought the signs didn't apply to them as they'd get right up close to them for photos. Granted, I nearly stepped on one unintentionally...I was wading back to shore and the sun was in my eyes...but as soon as people on the beach hollered, "You're going to step on it!" I stopped in my tracks and figured out what was in my path and then backed away and gave it plenty of room. Still, that's pretty clearly different than the people who were posing for photos next to them.
 
Moonbear said:
People are idiots. When I was in HI last year, there were signs everywhere around the beaches warning people about the laws protecting the sea turtles there, telling them not to touch them, not to intentionally approach them (I can't recall the distance you were supposed to stay), and generally not to disrupt them in any way. Yet, it seemed like every other tourist thought the signs didn't apply to them as they'd get right up close to them for photos. Granted, I nearly stepped on one unintentionally...I was wading back to shore and the sun was in my eyes...but as soon as people on the beach hollered, "You're going to step on it!" I stopped in my tracks and figured out what was in my path and then backed away and gave it plenty of room. Still, that's pretty clearly different than the people who were posing for photos next to them.

They started a hate group against him on Facebook and there are over 700 members. That's crazy.

His face got plastered everywhere on the internet in his home country.

He took them off his Facebook but it was too late because so many people saved it and uploaded it themselves.
 
Ok, just looked at it now. And it's reaching 1000 members now.
 
JasonRox said:
I came across this thread from another forum.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=116735271

It's a guy that is possibly drunk standing and playing around with a sea turtle on shore in Trinidad.

The "news" is already posted on other forums, and apparently e-mailed to some media outlets.

It bothers me a lot that the guy is just completely wrecklace and thoughtless on the situation.

I also caught this. Are you an avid miscer or just view it every now and then?

That guy is a DICK and also, I'm not saying if it's justified or not, but someone will probably "rough him up" a little sooner or later.
 
JasonRox said:
Ok, just looked at it now. And it's reaching 1000 members now.

What do you think they are going to do, "Poke" him to death?
 
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moose said:
I also caught this. Are you an avid miscer or just view it every now and then?

That guy is a DICK and also, I'm not saying if it's justified or not, but someone will probably "rough him up" a little sooner or later.

LOL

I go on once in awhile.

I usually go on a lot for a month, then quit for 6 months. Repeat that cycle. I've been there since sometime 2005 and I don't even have 2000 posts.

I'm more of a lurker, like I am here.
 
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moose said:
That guy is a DICK and also, I'm not saying if it's justified or not, but someone will probably "rough him up" a little sooner or later.

Yah it's kind of sad all around. People that stupid are pretty typical but with how internet mobs can sometimes be, the response against him might be far from measured. Seems like when stupid people see other stupid people being stupid on the internet, someone ends up hospitalized.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Yah it's kind of sad all around. People that stupid are pretty typical but with how internet mobs can sometimes be, the response against him might be far from measured. Seems like when stupid people see other stupid people being stupid on the internet, someone ends up hospitalized.

If you're aware (strong unaware... for the miscers), sometimes stuff does happen.

The website is crazy active. There was this wall of shame of legendary things that happened on the Misc. board there. In one of the stories, they conned a member (a female) into her husband thinking she was cheating with some guy down the street (which was a member of misc. and playing along), so her husband got mad. I guess someone got some dirty pictures of her (who knows how) then sent it to her work and her husband.

She lost her job and husband in a matter of maybe 2 weeks or less.

Lots of other things happened there too.

Note: Let's not get off topic though.
 
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Mmmmm they facebooked him. That sure showed him.
 
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Cyrus said:
Mmmmm they facebooked him. That sure showed him.

lol

You sure have no idea what happens there.

(Strong unaware)
 
  • #15
JasonRox said:
lol

You sure have no idea what happens there.

(Strong unaware)

Ooooo...big things happening at facebook town. Wooooooooo.

Tell me what happens there. Be gentile. Its my first time knowing.
 
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Cyrus said:
Ooooo...big things happening at facebook town. Wooooooooo.

Tell me what happens there. Be gentile. Its my first time knowing.

I'm talking about the forums, not Facebook.
 
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I have no idea what your talking about. You said facebook, I responded to facebook.
 
  • #18
Cyrus said:
I have no idea what your talking about. You said facebook, I responded to facebook.

No, I think you read half of it and responded before reading it all.
 
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I want half. The scooter is mine.
 
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I have saving the kiss for a special moment. :)