Should You Buy Christmas Gifts Only When Convinced They're Unnecessary?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the practice of gift-giving during the Christmas holiday, specifically questioning the necessity and value of buying gifts that recipients may not need. Participants share personal experiences and opinions regarding their approaches to gift-giving, family expectations, and alternative ways to celebrate the holiday season.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire to avoid unnecessary gift-giving, citing personal satisfaction in not purchasing gifts for several years.
  • Others share experiences of feeling obligated to buy gifts for family members despite not knowing what they want or need, leading to frustration.
  • A few participants mention shifting focus from gifts to shared experiences, such as family gatherings and meals, as a more enjoyable way to celebrate the holiday.
  • Some argue that the holiday spirit is being lost in the commercialization of Christmas, questioning the emphasis on buying material goods.
  • There are discussions about the cultural and familial expectations surrounding gift-giving, with some participants reflecting on their backgrounds and traditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a mix of agreement on the frustrations of gift-giving, but there are competing views on the necessity and value of such traditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to celebrate the holiday without the pressure of gift-giving.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific family dynamics and cultural backgrounds that influence their views on gift-giving, which may not be universally applicable. The conversation reflects a range of personal experiences and sentiments about holiday traditions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in alternative holiday practices, those feeling pressured by gift-giving traditions, and anyone exploring the cultural significance of Christmas celebrations may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Moonbear said:
Catholic families used to be very large. It's not as common anymore, because most ignore that little detail about not using birth control, but back when people followed the church's teachings much more faithfully, 4 or 5 kids would have been a small family, and the only birth control was that mom was too dang tired by the end of the day to have any interest in dad touching her.
Yes! By the time the late 50's - early 60's came around the rhythm method had fallen out of favor and family-size started to drop. I grew up with the younger end (born 1950-1965) of a family that had 18 kids. The father was a mill-worker and the mother was a cleaner/housekeeper for the family that owned the mill. They never owned much of any economic value, but some of their kids were the nicest people I've ever known. Proud, hard-working, decent folks who never asked for help, and who contributed a steady stream of altar-boys to the local parish.
 
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  • #32
Moonbear said:
What, no hairbrushes or dustbrooms made out of them? :biggrin:
Fuller Brush was well established by the time that I was trustworthy enough to lug the washbasins of blood to the kitchen (maybe '57 or '58). If you dropped a pail of small or large intestines in the dirt, no problem. If you dropped a pan of blood in the dirt (or even spilled a little), the great-aunts would cut you a new one, and your aunts and mother would stand by while you took your medicine. Blood sausage was highly-prized and the women of child-bearing age had first dibs.
 
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I should mention that the tongue-lashings were proportional to your understanding of French. The great-aunts would feel free to cut loose with lots of body language and inflection if they thought that you might not not understand everything. I never spoke French to my elders (a shame, but because my mother was dumped into a Maine community at age 6 knowing NO English, she thought that the older members of our extended clan should learn English if they were going to live here, and she made no real effort to teach us French). About the time I was age 6 or 7, one of my great-aunts and my mother got a little surprise, though. She came to visit us, and she was upset. She and my mother switched directly into French for the whole visit, and when my great-aunt had left, I asked "When is Betty-Anne going to have her baby?" Mom asked me where I had heard such a thing and I repeated (in English translation) everything that my great-aunt had said. After that, I was sometimes invited to play outside in the rain or snow. Betty-Anne was in HS and was not married.
 
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