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The discussion centers on the linearity of the determinant operator, specifically whether the determinant is closed under addition for square matrices of the same order. Participants confirm that the determinant operator is not linear, as demonstrated by counterexamples such as the matrices A = [[1, 0], [0, 1]] and B = [[1, 1], [1, 1]]. The consensus is that while the determinant is closed under multiplication, it fails to satisfy the property D(A + B) = D(A) + D(B) for all matrices A and B.

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Probably trivial, but for matrices with different ranks, Det is not closed for addition?

I think it is closed under multiplication?

So really I must show Det not closed under addition for square matrices of the same order...

$ D(A_n) = \sum_{j=1}^{n} a_{1j}C_{ij} $ and $ D(B_n) = \sum_{j=1}^{n} b_{1j}E_{ij} $, so $ D(A_n) + D(B_n) = \sum_{j=i}^{n} \left( a_{1j}C_{ij} + b_{1j}E_{ij} \right) $

Now $ D(A+B) =\sum_{j=1}^{n} \left( a_{1j} + b_{1j} \right) F_{1j} = $ (I'm not sure this bit is right either way?)

So $ D(A_n) + D(B_n) = D(A+B) $ only when A+B. Is that close?
 
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ognik said:
Probably trivial, but for matrices with different ranks, Det is not closed for addition?

I think it is closed under multiplication?

So really I must show Det not closed under addition for square matrices of the same order...

$ D(A_n) = \sum_{j=1}^{n} a_{1j}C_{ij} $ and $ D(B_n) = \sum_{j=1}^{n} b_{1j}E_{ij} $, so $ D(A_n) + D(B_n) = \sum_{j=i}^{n} \left( a_{1j}C_{ij} + b_{1j}E_{ij} \right) $

Now $ D(A+B) =\sum_{j=1}^{n} \left( a_{1j} + b_{1j} \right) F_{1j} = $ (I'm not sure this bit is right either way?)

So $ D(A_n) + D(B_n) = D(A+B) $ only when A+B. Is that close?

Hi ognik, :)

If the determinant operator is linear it should satisfy,

\[D(A+B)=D(A)+D(B)\]

for all matrices $A$ and $B$. So basically to show that the determinant operator is not linear you have to show a counterexample. Consider the matrices,

\[A=\begin{pmatrix}1 & 0 \\0 & 1\end{pmatrix}\mbox{ and }B=\begin{pmatrix}1 & 1 \\1 & 1\end{pmatrix}\]

and calculate $D(A+B)$ and $D(A)+D(B)$.
 
Thanks, that - and no doubt others - do the job.

But I was trying to use index notation and a generalised counter example - to practice index notation, would you (or anyone) mind critiquing my attempt?
 
ognik said:
Thanks, that - and no doubt others - do the job.

But I was trying to use index notation and a generalised counter example - to practice index notation, would you (or anyone) mind critiquing my attempt?

What do you mean by a generalized counter example? It would still have to be a counter example isn't? And that means whatever approach you use you'll have to substitute specific values for $A$ and $B$. :confused:
 
Well, I've tried to use the cofactor definition and tried to show that the only way they are equal is if the cofactors $C_{ij} = F_{ij} = E_{ij} $ and that can't be because we started with different C and E so I guess its more a (forgotten the word) than a counter example ...and I called it generalised because it's not using specific numbers, so my terminology may be wrong?
 
ognik said:
Well, I've tried to use the cofactor definition and tried to show that the only way they are equal is if the cofactors $C_{ij} = F_{ij} = E_{ij} $ and that can't be because we started with different C and E so I guess its more a (forgotten the word) than a counter example ...and I called it generalised because it's not using specific numbers, so my terminology may be wrong?

But $A$ and $B$ doesn't necessarily have to be different. For example a possible counter example is,

$A=B=\begin{pmatrix}1&0\\0&1\end{pmatrix}$

So even if you did prove that somehow you'll have to account for the case where $A$ and $B$ are equal.
 
Must.learn.to.use.counter.examples...:-)
 

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