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The discussion focuses on proving that the expression \( a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}} \) is an integer. The solution involves expanding \( (1 \pm \sqrt{2})^3 \) using the binomial theorem, which results in \( 7 \pm 5\sqrt{2} \). This leads to the conclusion that \( \sqrt[3]{7 \pm 5\sqrt{2}} \) equals \( 1 \pm \sqrt{2} \). Therefore, adding these two results yields \( a = 2 \), confirming that \( a \) is indeed an integer. The discussion highlights the elegance and simplicity of the solution.
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Let $a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}}$. Show (without the use of a calculator), that $a$ is an integer.
 
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lfdahl said:
Let $a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}}$. Show (without the use of a calculator), that $a$ is an integer.

$a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}}$.
we have a is real
cube both sides to get using $(x+y)^3= x^3+y^3 + 3xy(x+y)$
$a^3= 7+5\sqrt{2} + 7-5\sqrt{2}+ 3 (\sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}})(\sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}})a$
$= 14 + 3a$
hence $a^3+3a-14=0$
by rational root theorem 2 is a root
hence $a^3-4a + 7a-14 =0$
or $(a-2)(a^2 + 2a) +7(a- 2) = (a-2)(a^2+2a+7)=0$
so a = 2 or $a^2+2a+7=0$ which gives complex roots
so a = 2 as a is real
now I leave some one to prove that 2 is integer
 
lfdahl said:
Let $a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}}$. Show (without the use of a calculator), that $a$ is an integer.
My solution:
[sp]Expand $(1 \pm \sqrt2)^3$ binomially to get $$(1 \pm \sqrt2)^3 = 1 \pm3\sqrt2 + 6 \pm2\sqrt2 = 7 \pm 5\sqrt2.$$ So $1 \pm \sqrt2 = \sqrt[3]{7\pm 5\sqrt2}$, and $\sqrt[3]{7 + 5\sqrt2} + \sqrt[3]{7 - 5\sqrt2} = (1 + \sqrt2) + (1 - \sqrt2) = 2.$

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kaliprasad said:
$a = \sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}} + \sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}}$.
we have a is real
cube both sides to get using $(x+y)^3= x^3+y^3 + 3xy(x+y)$
$a^3= 7+5\sqrt{2} + 7-5\sqrt{2}+ 3 (\sqrt[3]{7+5\sqrt{2}})(\sqrt[3]{7-5\sqrt{2}})a$
$= 14 + 3a$
hence $a^3+3a-14=0$
by rational root theorem 2 is a root
hence $a^3-4a + 7a-14 =0$
or $(a-2)(a^2 + 2a) +7(a- 2) = (a-2)(a^2+2a+7)=0$
so a = 2 or $a^2+2a+7=0$ which gives complex roots
so a = 2 as a is real
now I leave some one to prove that 2 is integer

Well done, kaliprasad! A clear and sharp solution indeed! Thankyou for your participation!(Yes)

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Opalg said:
My solution:
[sp]Expand $(1 \pm \sqrt2)^3$ binomially to get $$(1 \pm \sqrt2)^3 = 1 \pm3\sqrt2 + 6 \pm2\sqrt2 = 7 \pm 5\sqrt2.$$ So $1 \pm \sqrt2 = \sqrt[3]{7\pm 5\sqrt2}$, and $\sqrt[3]{7 + 5\sqrt2} + \sqrt[3]{7 - 5\sqrt2} = (1 + \sqrt2) + (1 - \sqrt2) = 2.$

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This is a suprisingly short and elegant way to "crack the nut". Thankyou, Opalg, for your participation!
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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