Show that every quaternion z, where |z|= 1, can be expressed

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The discussion revolves around the expression of quaternions with a unit norm, specifically exploring how every quaternion \( z \) with \( |z| = 1 \) can be represented in the form \( z = \cos(\alpha/2) + \sin(\alpha/2) \cdot n \), where \( n \) is a unit vector. The scope includes conceptual understanding and mathematical reasoning related to quaternions and their properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to start the problem and seeks intuition behind the expression of quaternions.
  • Another participant suggests writing down a general quaternion and its norm to begin the analysis.
  • A participant acknowledges understanding the equation \( a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1 \) but struggles with its implications for \( a \).
  • There is a discussion about the coefficients \( b, c, \) and \( d \) corresponding to the imaginary units \( i, j, \) and \( k \), and how they relate to \( \sin(\alpha/2) \) and \( \cos(\alpha/2) \).
  • Hints are provided by a participant who claims to have solved the problem, suggesting consideration of trigonometric identities and the construction of the vector \( n \).

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the problem. There is no consensus on how to derive the expression or the implications of the equations presented.

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Some participants reference specific equations and relationships without fully resolving their implications or providing a complete derivation. The discussion reflects a mix of exploratory reasoning and mathematical inquiry.

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hi, and thanks for reading. hh, and this isn't homework, its just something I've been wondering about.

i've been flicking through a linear algebra book, I'm trying to learn it by myself, and I've come across this question which has completely stumped me:

show that every quaternion z, where |z|= 1, can be expressed in the form z = cos(alpha/2) + sin(alpha/2).n, where n is a vector of length 1

I don't know where to start, but more importantly, i don't understand the intuition behind it. Anybody care to explain? thanks
 
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innuendo999 said:
I don't know where to start

Write down a general quaternion z, and write down |z|.
 


George Jones said:
Write down a general quaternion z, and write down |z|.

Thanks for the reply. I've that much done. And I know that a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1. But, that's where I'm lost.
 


innuendo999 said:
Thanks for the reply. I've that much done. And I know that a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1. But, that's where I'm lost.

I assume that b, c, and d are the coefficients of i, j, and k respectively.

What does

a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1

and

b^2 + c^2 + d^2 >= 0

say about a^2, and thus about a?
 


innuendo999 said:
Hi, and thanks for reading. Oh, and this isn't homework, it's just something I've been wondering about.

Innuendo, are you Irish?
We got this exact same question for homework in Linear Algebra, to hand in today... /suspicious :smile:
 


George Jones said:
I assume that b, c, and d are the coefficients of i, j, and k respectively.

What does

a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 = 1

and

b^2 + c^2 + d^2 >= 0

say about a^2, and thus about a?

yes, b, c and d are the coefficients of i, j and k

it says that a is less than or equal to 1?

so, n = i + j + k, then b, c and d = sin(alpha/2)? and a = cos(alpha/2)? i can see that much, but i can't see how to get one from the other
 
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Zorba said:
Innuendo, are you Irish?
We got this exact same question for homework in Linear Algebra, to hand in today... /suspicious :smile:

i've never been in a linear algebra class, I am just working through problems that are in a linear algebra pdf i downloaded :)
 


Ahh well if that's the case, then I can give you a few hints since I solved it myself.

Think about how to construct [tex]\vec{n}[/tex] in such a way that satisfies the question.
Think about when Sin/Cos is defined.
Think about that equation George Jones gave you and there's a certain trig identity that may allow you to manipulate it.
 


Hey Zorba I'm from Ireland and had to hand up this question in class today.
You doing maths in trinity?

As for the the question I couldn't quite get it.
Sorry.
 
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Aye, I'm in Trinity, but doing TP though. :smile:
 

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