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The discussion revolves around proving that if \( p = 2^k - 1 \) is prime, then \( k \) must be an odd integer, except when \( k = 2 \). The subject area includes number theory and properties of prime numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore a proof by contradiction, assuming \( k \) is even and deriving implications for \( p \). Some suggest revising the proof structure for clarity and conciseness. Others discuss the relevance of the difference of squares and long division in the context of the proof.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the proof structure and suggesting alternative methods. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions and the clarity of reasoning, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants note the importance of providing evidence for claims made within the proof, such as the divisibility of \( 4^m - 1 \) by \( 3 \). There are also references to homework constraints and the need for clarity in mathematical arguments.

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Homework Statement
Another unproven conjecture is that there are an infinitude of primes that are ## 1 ## less than a power of ## 2 ##, such as ## 3=2^{2}-1 ##.
If ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime, show that ## k ## is an odd integer, except when ## k=2 ##.
Relevant Equations
None.
Proof:

Suppose for the sake of contradiction that ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime
but ## k ## is not an odd integer.
That is, ## k ## is an even integer.
Then we have ## k=2a ## for some ## a\in\mathbb{Z} ##.
Thus ## p=2^{k}-1
=2^{2a}-1
=4^{a}-1. ##
Note that ## 3\mid 4^{n}-1 ## for all ## n\geq1 ##.
This means ## 3 ## divides ## p ##,
and so ## p ## must be ## 3 ##,
because ## p ## is a prime number.
Now we have ## p=2^{k}-1
=3 ##,
which implies that ## 2^{k}=3+1=4 ##,
so ## k=2 ##.
Since ## k\neq2 ##,
it follows that ## p\neq3 ##.
This is a contradiction because p cannot be a composite,
given the fact that ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime.
Therefore, if ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime,
then ## k ## is an odd integer, except when ## k=2 ##.
 
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You've got to tidy that up!
 
PeroK said:
You've got to tidy that up!
But how?
 
Math100 said:
But how?
Review and edit. It's something you need to learn to do.
 
Math100 said:
But how?
Rule of thumb: write it in a way that convinces yourself, then delete all but every third row :wink:

Concentrate on the crucial lines:

E.g.: Assume ##p=2^k-1## is prime and assume ##k=2m >3.##

This gets you directly to your fifth line and everything is said, including the contradictional assumption.

Now you get ##p=4^m-1=(4-1)\cdot (\ldots) ## and so on.

You get the dots by using long division on ##(4^m-1):(4-1)## or in general ##(x^m-1):(x-1)## which is a valuable exercise anyway, since the formula is often used, and long division a method you should know.
 
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Math100 said:
Homework Statement:: Another unproven conjecture is that there are an infinitude of primes that are ## 1 ## less than a power of ## 2 ##, such as ## 3=2^{2}-1 ##.
If ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime, show that ## k ## is an odd integer, except when ## k=2 ##.
Relevant Equations:: None.

Proof:

Suppose for the sake of contradiction that ## p=2^{k}-1 ## is prime
but ## k ## is not an odd integer.
That is, ## k ## is an even integer.
Then we have ## k=2a ## for some ## a\in\mathbb{Z} ##.
Thus ## p=2^{k}-1
=2^{2a}-1
=4^{a}-1. ##

2^{2a} - 1 is a difference of squares. Do you recall that x^2 - y^2 = (x+y)(x - y)?
 
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pasmith said:
2^{2a} - 1 is a difference of squares. Do you recall that x^2 - y^2 = (x+y)(x - y)?
Yes.
 
fresh_42 said:
Rule of thumb: write it in a way that convinces yourself, then delete all but every third row :wink:

Concentrate on the crucial lines:

E.g.: Assume ##p=2^k-1## is prime and assume ##k=2m >3.##

This gets you directly to your fifth line and everything is said, including the contradictional assumption.

Now you get ##p=4^m-1=(4-1)\cdot (\ldots) ## and so on.

You get the dots by using long division on ##(4^m-1):(4-1)## or in general ##(x^m-1):(x-1)## which is a valuable exercise anyway, since the formula is often used, and long division a method you should know.
So you're saying that after fifth line in my proof, I should revise it into another method?
 
I only said what I thought. It is a reflex if I see ##x^m -1.## It is the formula that is used for interest rates:
$$
\sum_{k=0}^{m-1} r^k = \dfrac{r^m-1}{r-1}
$$
As I said, this formula and the method of long division are valuable tools.

A faster method has been given to you in post #6.

Your method is the same, only that you did not provide evidence for ##3\,|\,4^m-1.## My method and the one in post #6 provide this evidence. Other methods are a proof by induction or modular arithmetics:
$$
4^m-1 \mod 3 \equiv (4\mod 3)^m-1 =1^m-1=0 \Longrightarrow 3\,|\,4^m-1
$$

Once you have ##3\,|\,p## you automatically have ##3=p## since ##p## is prime and so ##k=2##, contradicting the assumption.

All you have written can be compressed into that line.
 
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I wouldn't write this as a proof by contradiction. You derive a contradiction. It's a problem here because you want to derive a contradiction from:

Math100 said:
Suppose for the sake of contradiction that p=2k−1 is prime
but k is not an odd integer.
You never derive a contradiction to the complete statement.

It would be much simpler to start with "k is even and p = prime)" and derive k=2 from that.
 
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