Show that set of points form right-angled triangle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a set of three points forms a right-angled triangle. Participants explore various methods including the Pythagorean theorem, slope calculations, and vector analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the Pythagorean theorem but finds it unhelpful, seeking alternative suggestions.
  • Another participant proposes plotting the points and calculating the slopes of the segments to show that their product is -1, indicating perpendicularity.
  • A participant calculates the distances between the points and questions whether the Pythagorean relationship holds for the computed lengths.
  • One participant provides slope calculations for the segments and concludes that the product of the slopes confirms the points form a right triangle.
  • Another participant introduces a vector approach, demonstrating that the dot product of the vectors is zero, which also indicates perpendicularity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods to demonstrate the right-angled triangle property, but there is no consensus on a single approach as the definitive solution. Disagreement exists on the effectiveness of the Pythagorean theorem in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations and assumptions regarding the distances and slopes may depend on the specific coordinates of the points, which are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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I was thinking of using Pythagoras here but it didn't get me far
Any suggestions?
 

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Let's begin by plotting the 3 given points:

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It appears that \(\overline{AB}\) and \(\overline{AC}\) are the legs. Can you show that the product of the slopes of these two segments is -1?
 

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Yazan975 said:
I was thinking of using Pythagoras here but it didn't get me far
Any suggestions?
"Pythagoras" works wonderfully!

The distance from (1, -4) to (2, -3) is $\sqrt{(1- 2)^2+ (-4+ 3)^2}= \sqrt{1+ 1}= \sqrt{2}$.
The distance from (1, -4) to (4, -7) is $\sqrt{(1- 4)^2+ (-4+ 7)^2}= \sqrt{9+ 9}= \sqrt{18}$
The distance from (2, -3) to (4, -7) is $\sqrt{(2- 4)^2+ (-3+ 7)^2}= \sqrt{4+ 16}= \sqrt{20}$

Clearly $\sqrt{20}$ is larger than either $\sqrt{2}$ or $\sqrt{18}$ so let $a= \sqrt{2}$, $b= \sqrt{18}$, and $c= \sqrt{20}$. Is it true that $a^2+ b^2= c^2$?
 
To follow up (which is what we're hoping you will do when given help), we find:

$$m_{\overline{AB}}=\frac{3-(-4)}{2-1}=1$$

$$m_{\overline{AC}}=\frac{-7-(-4)}{4-1}=-1$$

Hence:

$$m_{\overline{AB}}\cdot m_{\overline{AC}}=-1$$

And so we may conclude that the 3 given points must be the vertices of a right triangle.
 
Alternatively, use vectors:

$$\vec{AB}\cdot\vec{AC}=<1,1>\cdot<3,-3>=0\implies\overline{AB}\perp\overline{AC}$$
 

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