Show that the Hamiltonian is Hermitian for a particle in 1D

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the Hamiltonian operator, ##\hat H##, is Hermitian for a particle in one dimension. The context includes previous parts of the problem related to Hermitian operators and their properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the expression for the Hamiltonian, ##\hat H = \frac{\hat p^2}{2m} + V(x)##, and discuss the implications of the inner product in relation to Hermitian operators.
  • Some participants question the treatment of the potential function, ##V(x)##, and whether it can be considered as a constant in the context of the inner product.
  • There is a discussion about whether the definition of the inner product needs to be established from the beginning or if it can be assumed at a later stage.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the assumptions regarding the inner product and the nature of the operators involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for a clear definition of the inner product, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

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There are indications that the participants are navigating through the definitions and properties of Hermitian operators, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics, while also considering the implications of their specific problem setup.

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Homework Statement
(d) Show that ##\hat H## Hermitian for a particle in one dimension.
Relevant Equations
##\hat H##= ##\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} +V(x)##
##\hat p^\dagger=\hat p##
I need help with part d of this problem. I believe I completed the rest correctly, but am including them for context

(a)Show that the hermitian conjugate of the hermitian conjugate of any operator ##\hat A## is itself, i.e. ##(\hat A^\dagger)^\dagger##
(b)Consider an arbitrary operator ##\hat A##. Show that ##\hat A^\dagger \hat A##, a Hermitian operator, and its expectation value satisfies ##\langle \hat A^\dagger \hat A \rangle \geq 0##
(c) Show that ˆx is Hermitian for a particle in one dimension.
(d) Show that ##\hat H## is Hermitian for a particle in one dimension.

Attempt

Using ##\hat H##= ##\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} +V(x)##

##\langle f~|\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} +V(x)~g \rangle##

##=\langle f~|\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} ~g \rangle~+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle f~|\hat p^2 ~g \rangle~+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle (\hat p^2)^\dagger f~|~g \rangle~+\langle\mathbf {V^*(x)} f~|~g \rangle## Is it wrong to write V(x) like this? Since it isn't an operator, I assumed it might act like a constant

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle \hat p^2 f~|~g \rangle~+\langle V^*(x) f~|~g \rangle## Since ##\hat p## is hermitian ##(\hat p^2)^\dagger=\hat p^2##

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle g~|~\hat p^2 f \rangle^*~+\langle g~|~V^*(x) f \rangle^*##

##=(\langle g|\frac{\hat p^2}{2m}+ V^*(x) f \rangle^*)^*##

##=\langle \frac{\hat p^2}{2m}+ V^*(x) f|g \rangle##

Is this the correct approach? If it is, what do I do with my ##V^*(x)##
 
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In general, you can only show something is Hermitian relative to a given inner product. For ##V(x)## you will need to use the definition of the inner product you are using.
 
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PeroK said:
In general, you can only show something is Hermitian relative to a given inner product. For ##V(x)## you will need to use the definition of the inner product you are using.
Thank you!

Do I need to use the definition of the inner product from the very beginning, or can I start from here?
##+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##
 
Moolisa said:
Thank you!

Do I need to use the definition of the inner product from the very beginning, or can I start from here?
##+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##
That's not a definition of an inner product. That could be any inner product.
 
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PeroK said:
That's not a definition of an inner product. That could be any inner product.
I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure how to word it, but I was wondering if I could do this

##=\langle f~|\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} ~g \rangle~+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle (\hat p^2)^\dagger f~|~g \rangle~+\langle f~|V(x)~g \rangle##

##=\frac{1}{2m}~\langle \hat p^2 f~|~g \rangle+\langle f|V(x) g\rangle##

##=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} (\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} f)^*g~dx +\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f^*Vg~dx##

##=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} (\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} f)^*g~dx +\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} (Vf)^*g~dx##

##=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} (\frac{\hat p^2}{2m} f +Vf)^*~g~dx##

##=\langle \hat H f~|~g \rangle##

So since ##\langle \hat H f~|~g \rangle= \langle f|\hat H~g \rangle##, ##\hat H## is hermitian

Is this possible, or do I have to start with the integration method from the beginning, and use integration method for both sides of the "+" sign? ( basically, use integration for both the ##\hat p^2## side and the V(x) side)
 
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