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The discussion revolves around an exercise in topology concerning the existence of a sequence of continuous functions from the real numbers to the real numbers. The specific problem is to show that no such sequence exists where the sequence of function values is bounded if and only if the input is a rational number.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to approach the problem, indicating a lack of understanding of the exercise.
  • Another participant notes that every real number can be approximated by a sequence of rational numbers, suggesting that the continuity of functions would imply that the limit of function values on rationals converges to the function value at the limit point.
  • A third participant introduces a set definition, B_n, to analyze the points where the sequence of functions is unbounded, stating that the intersection of these sets is a G_δ set and that the rationals do not form a G_δ set.
  • A fourth participant compliments the third participant on their insight, indicating a recognition of the complexity of the argument presented.

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The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus, as participants present different approaches and insights without resolving the problem or agreeing on a definitive method to demonstrate the claim.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of continuous functions and the nature of G_δ sets, which may not be fully explored or agreed upon by all participants.

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I found this interesting exercise on a topology book I'm reading, but I don't have a clue what to do.

Show that there is no sequence {g_n} of continuous functions from R to R such that the sequence {(g_n)(x)} is bounded iff x is rational (where R = set of real numbers).
 
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poet_3000 said:
I found this interesting exercise on a topology book I'm reading, but I don't have a clue what to do.

Show that there is no sequence {g_n} of continuous functions from R to R such that the sequence {(g_n)(x)} is bounded iff x is rational (where R = set of real numbers).

Every real is the limit of a sequence of rational. The value of a continuous function on this sequence of rationals converges to its value on the limit.
 
Define B_n=\{x\in\mathbb{R}:|f_k(x)|>n\:\mathrm{ for some }\:k\} and note that each B_n is open. Now the set of points where the sequence is unbounded is \bigcap_{n\ge0}B_n. This is a G_\delta set, and the rationals are not a G_\delta set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gδ_set
 
Tinyboss,

You are a clever, clever man. How did you think of something like that?
 

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