Show that two lines(in 3D) are parallel, skew or intercept

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The discussion revolves around determining the relationship between two lines in three-dimensional space, specifically whether they are parallel, skew, or intersecting. The original poster shares their attempts and reasoning regarding the conditions for parallelism and skewness, as well as their struggles with finding an intersection point.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conditions for parallel lines and skew lines, expressing confusion over the intersection point. Other participants suggest checking specific points of intersection by substituting values into the line equations. There is also a discussion about the calculations for parameters t and s and their implications for intersection.

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Some participants have provided calculations and methods to verify the intersection point, with one participant claiming to have found the intersection at (7, 5, -3). However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall interpretation of the lines' relationships, and multiple approaches are being explored.

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The original poster mentions spending significant time on the problem without success, indicating a potential challenge in understanding the concepts or calculations involved. There are also references to specific equations and points that may require further clarification or verification.

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Hi,
I was given this online assignment and this was one question I could not get.
I know that two parallel lines parallel if their normal vectors' are scalar multiples of each other. And that if solving for t and s with two equations gives a t and s not satisfying the third equation, they do not intercept and are thus skew.
I've spent about 4 hours on this now without any luck. From top to bottom, my answers are B, B, A, A, B, B. I know that there must be an intercept somewhere in there but I can't seem to find it even after repeating the questions over and over.
If anyone could help me out that would be great,
Thanks
 
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Well, you are only given 2 possible points of intersection. The easiest way to find which ones intersect at those point is to plug those numbers into the equations to see if the both lines go through either point.
 
Well according to my calculator the first one intersects at (7,5,-3). But I couldn't get this on paper! When I solve for t and s, they end up as t=-3/2 and s=-4/3. It works fine for solving the x and y equations, but once I plug those into the z equations, it doesn't satisfy.
 
The first two lines are given by
\frac{x- 11}{4}= y- 6= \frac{z+5}{-2}
and
\frac{x- 13}{6}= \frac{y- 2}{-3}= \frac{z- 5}{8}

One way to do this:
\frac{x- 11}{4}= y- 6= \frac{z+5}{-2}= t
so x- 11= 4t, y- 6= t, z+ 5= -2t
x= 4t+ 11, y= t+ 6, z= -2t- 5

\frac{x- 13}{6}= \frac{y- 2}{-3}= \frac{z- 5}{8}= s
so x- 13= 6s, y- 2= -3s z- 5= 8s
x= 6s+ 13, y= -3s+ 2, z= 8s+ 5

The lines are not parallel sin <4, 1, -2> is not a multiple of <6, -3, 8>

At a point of intersection, if any
x= 4t+ 11=6s+ 13 and y= t+ 6= -3s+ 2. Then t= -3s+ 2- 6= -3s- 4. Putting that into the x-equation, 4(-3s-4)+ 11= -12s- 16+ 11= -12s- 5= 6s+ 13. 18s= -18 and s= -1 and t= 3- 4= -1.

x= 6s+13= -6+13= 7, y= -3s+2= 3+ 2= 5.

Now, check that in the z-equations. z= -2t- 5= 2- 5= -3 and z= 8s+ 5= -8+ 5= -3. Since those are the same the lines intersect at (7, 5, -3).

Another way:
\frac{x- 11}{4}= \frac{x- 13}{6}
so 6(x- 11)= 4(x- 13) or 6x- 66= 4x- 52. 2x= 14, x= 7.

y- 6= \frac{y- 2}{-3}
so -3(y- 6)= -3y+ 18= y- 2 or 4y= 20, y= 5.

\frac{z+ 5}{-2}= \frac{z- 5}{8}
so 8(z+ 5)= -2(z- 5) or 10z= -30, z= -3.

Of course, we still have to check those answers:
\frac{7- 11}{4}= 5- 6= \frac{-3+5}{-2}
\frac{-4}{4}= -1= \frac{2}{-2}\
-1= -1 = -1 so that equation checks.

\frac{7- 13}{6}= \frac{5- 2}{-3}= \frac{-3- 5}{8}
\frac{-6}{6}= \frac{-3}{3}= \frac{-8}{8}<br /> -1= -1 = -1 so that equation checks.<br /> <br /> Again, the two lines intersect at (7, 5, -3).<br /> <br /> Now, you try the others.
 

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