Showing position vector follows parabolic path

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the position vector r(t) = (at^2)/2 + vt + r lies in a plane and traces a parabolic path when the vectors a and v are not parallel. The context involves vector calculus and kinematics, focusing on the relationships between acceleration, velocity, and position over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the position vector's form and its relation to a plane. There are attempts to express the equations in terms of basis vectors and to relate the components of the vectors to a quadratic form. Questions arise about the necessity of decomposing the vectors and the specific requirements of the professor's prompt.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on selecting basis vectors and suggest methods for expressing the position vector in a suitable form. There is an ongoing exploration of how to manipulate the equations to demonstrate the parabolic nature of the path, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of interpreting the professor's request and the potential need for additional clarity on the definitions and relationships between the vectors involved. There is also mention of the assumption that a and v are not parallel, which is central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Hi, got my HW back from prof. There were a few problems... I want to understand these before the test.

Show that r(t) = (at^2)/2 + vt + r lies in a plane and that if a and v are not parallel, then r(t) traces out a parabola. Note a, v, and r are constant vectors here (i.e. acceleration, velocity, and position and t is time)


Homework Equations



1. y = Ax + Bx^2 (prof said to show this)



The Attempt at a Solution



I wasn't sure about this. I put that since v(r) = dr/dt = at + v, there is no 3rd direction in which particle will move (since r disappears). Also, we can pass a plane through any two vectors...

In regards to showing y = Ax + Bx^2, is it as simple as letting x = t and y = r(t) -r? This would make it fit the form since A = a/2 = constant, right? Or do I have to do something by decompose these vectors such as

x(t) = (axt^2)/2 + vxt + x, y(t) = (ayt^2)/2 + vyt + y, etc. I'm just not sure what prof. wants?

Thanks!
 
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You'll want to make a selection of basis vectors for the plane. I would suggest to take y1 to be a unit vector parallel to a. Then take x1 to be a unit vector perpendicular to a, but in the same plane as a and v. Now write x(t)=x1.(r(t)-r) and y(t)=y1.(r(t)-r) ('.' being the dot product). Since x1 is perpendicular to a, x(t) is a linear function of t, and x(t) is a quadratic function of t. So it should be easy to write it in the form y=Ax+Bx^2.
 
x(t) = x1 * [r(t) – r] = x1 * (½ at^2 + vt)
= x1 * ½ at^2 + x1 * vt (since a not || v, then v not perpendicular to x)
= 0 + |x1||v|cos(theta) = vtcos(theta) where v is now a scalar

Similarly

y(t) = (½ at^2 + vt)cos(theta)

So now do I do this… ½ at^2 + vt = B (vt)^2 + Avt (i.e. y = Bx^2 + Ax) and find that A = 1 and B = a/(2v^2) always works? So is the answer just to pick this A and B, and then r(t) will fit the form of a parabola? Sorry, I’m still kind of shaky on these type of proof/showing problems. Thanks again for the help!
 
Well, you are on the right track. x(t)=(x1.v)*t. x1.v is just a constant - no need to say what it is. y(t)=(y1.a)*t^2/2+(y1.v)*t. This is a constant times t^2 plus a constant time t. No need to say more. Solve the x(t) equation for t and substitute into the y(t) equation and you'll get a quadratic equation for y(t) in terms of x(t) which is what you are after. Note that y(t) and x(t) are just coordinates of the path in the plane defined by the direction of vectors a and v with origin at r.
 

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