Showing that a three-dimensional vector field is conservative

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The discussion centers on demonstrating that the vector field F = (z^2 + 2xy, x^2, 2xz) is conservative by finding its potential function. The participants work through the integration of the components of the vector field, correcting errors in the expressions for the potential function f(x,y,z). After integrating and differentiating, they conclude that the function h(y) must be a constant, leading to the potential function f = xz^2 + x^2y. The final consensus confirms that the vector field is indeed conservative, as the potential function is correctly identified.
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Alright, so the field is \mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)
it's a gradient only when f_x = z^2 + 2xy, f_y = x^2 and f_z = 2xz
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z)
now, f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x) which is 2xz
integrate that with respect to z, g(y,z) = \int 2xz\,dz = xz^2 + h(y)
plug that into our previous expression f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z) = 2xz^2 + x^2y + h(y)
derive that with respect to y for f_y(x,y,z) = x^2 + h'(y) = x^2
so h'(y) = 0 and h(y) = c and we can set c = 0 and now the potential function is f(x,y,z) = 2xz^2 + x^2y which is wrong. It should be f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + x^2y. Help me please. Sorry if my LaTeX is wonky.
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is \mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)
it's a gradient only when f_x = z^2 + 2xy, f_y = x^2 and f_z = 2xz
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z)
no...the second term is x^2y
 
CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is \mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)
it's a gradient only when f_x = z^2 + 2xy, f_y = x^2 and f_z = 2xz
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z)
now, f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x) which is 2xz
integrate that with respect to z, g(y,z) = \int 2xz\,dz = xz^2 + h(y)
plug that into our previous expression f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z) = 2xz^2 + z^2y + h(y)
derive that with respect to y for F_y(x,y,z) = x^2 + h'(y) = x^2
No, your derivative is wrong. should be z^2 + h'
 
Hold on, I'm trying to fix what I typed, as it doesn't match my paper here... alright, fixing the first thing fixed the second thing, so now this reflects how I did the problem.
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is \mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)
it's a gradient only when f_x = z^2 + 2xy, f_y = x^2 and f_z = 2xz
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z)
now, f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x) which is 2xz
no. Look at your f(x,y,z). f_z is 2xz + g_z
 
nrqed said:
no. Look at your f(x,y,z). f_z is 2xz + g_z
So then what do you do from there? f_z = 2xz + g_z and we know that f_z = 2xz so that g_z = 0 and g = h(y), is that right? That would give the right answer.
 
CactuarEnigma said:
So then what do you do from there? f_z = 2xz + g_z and we know that f_z = 2xz so that g_z = 0 and g = h(y), is that right? That would give the right answer.
yes..
You are done. the derivative with respect to y of f must give x^2. But now you know that f= xz^2 + x^2 y + h(y) so this shows that h is a constant.
You are done.
 

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