Silence is goldenBut please don't enfroce it is illegal

[scott1]

AN Australian tourist has been charged with assault after telling a Texas woman to stop talking on her mobile phone at the movies.

http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,18104683-5001022,00.html
Movie therters really need to put cell phone singal jamers after this

 

[rachmaninoff]

Totally backwards!

 

[zoobyshoe]

Interesting story. It sounds like the Australian woman has a personality disorder or something.

 

[Moonbear]

Of course you get to the last line in the story where it says police wouldn't be notifying US immigration about it, yet, apparently someone notified international news about it!

But, yeah, I agree, I wouldn't mind if they made theaters out of something that would block cell phone reception in them. If you want to talk on the phone rather than watch a movie, step out to the lobby. I can't believe how rude some people are with phones! (On a related note, did anyone else think it was amazingly tacky seeing one of the US Olympic athletes on the cell phone as they were processing in during the opening ceremony? I thought it was bad enough when I started noticing them with video cameras, but the cell phone even seemed worse. I just don't get it...it seems so undignified to be processing in for a ceremony to start an international competition like that and be chatting on the phone or taking home videos!)

 

[Moonbear]

Interesting story. It sounds like the Australian woman has a personality disorder or something.

Are you sure you don't mean the Texas woman? She's the one who was on the phone and stood up shouting after being politely asked to be quiet and then called the cops claiming she was assaulted because the Australian woman tapped her on the shoulder. I hardly think tapping someone on the shoulder to get their attention is assault!

 

[Pengwuino]

haha wow that was pretty odd. Two american citizens bumping into each other in Australia?

I would give the woman a medal or something when she got back to the US! Sometimes i just want to punch people who use cell phones in theatres.

 

[Cyrus]

Come on people, let's pay attention to what the article says:

'AN Australian tourist '

'Ms Clayton was issued a citation and will appear in a Texas court next week to answer the charge.'

'Ms Clayton said the woman stood up over her, started shouting expletives at her and then stormed out of the cinema, in the town of Webster, just outside Houston.'


Clayton- Australian tourist
Place- Texas
Lady on phone- Texan

 

[tribdog]

I've never been to Houston. Is it near Sydney?

 

[Pengwuino]

I thought Houston was in eastern australia :)

I'll need ot read this article 3 or 4 more times before i get all my bearings straight as to what's going on here.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Are you sure you don't mean the Texas woman?

You're right. I got them mixed up.

 

[Moonbear]

I think Cyrus summed up the essentials. I think some folks here need to work on reading comprehension. Now go read my rant about getting stuck in snow 10 more times for practice! If you can understand that, you can understand anything.

Oops...zooby snuck in while I was typing...my comment was aimed at Penguwino for saying he needed to read it multiple times.

 

[Curious3141]

Yes, that's right, you can't touch people. Then it becomes assault.

Me, I just yell at the top of my voice, "SHUT THE F*** UP MORON !" and that usually gets the trick done. *And* it's legal.

 

[Doc Al]

Yes, that's right, you can't touch people. Then it becomes assault.

Me, I just yell at the top of my voice, "SHUT THE F*** UP MORON !" and that usually gets the trick done. *And* it's legal.

Actually, no. Threatening people is considered assault; touch them and it's assault and battery.

 

[Curious3141]

Actually, no. Threatening people is considered assault; touch them and it's assault and battery.

Where is the threat ? Doesn't a threat have to be a conditional or subjunctive statement with a penalty (implied or otherwise) for noncompliance ? Isn't "SHUT UP" just an imperative statement without a conditional clause (which can be interpreted as a threat) ? There are no non-verbal cues here, either, no weapons or "threatening" gestures.

And "moron", of course, is just an epithet. An opinion, really, although well-founded in this case.

 

[Doc Al]

My point was that the legal charge of "assault" does not involve laying a hand on someone.

 

[Evo]

I thought Houston was in eastern australia :)

I'll need ot read this article 3 or 4 more times before i get all my bearings straight as to what's going on here.

No, no, the Bering Straight is between Russia and Alaska, I don't think this is where the women were.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Where is the threat ? Doesn't a threat have to be a conditional or subjunctive statement with a penalty (implied or otherwise) for noncompliance ? Isn't "SHUT UP" just an imperative statement without a conditional clause (which can be interpreted as a threat) ? There are no non-verbal cues here, either, no weapons or "threatening" gestures.

And "moron", of course, is just an epithet. An opinion, really, although well-founded in this case.

415 of the CA Penal Code
Disturbing the Peace
Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of not more than $400, or both such imprisonment and fine:
(1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or challenges another person in a public place to fight.
(2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another person by loud and unreasonable noise.
(3)Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which are inherantly likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

I'd imagine that most places have similar laws.

 

[Pengwuino]

415 of the CA Penal Code
Disturbing the Peace
Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of not more than $400, or both such imprisonment and fine:
(1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or challenges another person in a public place to fight.
(2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another person by loud and unreasonable noise.
(3)Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which are inherantly likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.

I'd imagine that most places have similar laws.

Then shouldn't the woman on the cell phone have gone to jail!

I think its not that fair to compare TX and CA laws though

 

[Moonbear]

Yeah, actually, I think the woman on the cell phone is probably more likely to be convicted on either a disturbing the peace or assault charge than the woman who asked her to shush. I hope any reasonable judge would just toss out the charge on the Australian woman and throw the book at the Texan!

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Then shouldn't the woman on the cell phone have gone to jail!

Damn straight!

 

[Cyrus]

I disagree, I think the Australian woman should have gone to jail.

 

[JasonRox]

I disagree, I think the Australian woman should have gone to jail.

It's all government propaganda!

 

[Evo]

I disagree, I think the Australian woman should have gone to jail.

What? Why?

I agree, she should not have touched the woman, but it doesn't seem she touched her in a threatening way, but as a way to get the woman to notice her without her having to raise her voice and disturb others. It is not an unfriendly gesture.

I think the Texas behemoth should do hard time in the slammer.

I used to live in Webster, Texas, these people are dregs of society.

 

[Pengwuino]

I disagree, I think the Australian woman should have gone to jail.

Well legally she should have gone to jail but sheesh! I would try to find some inane law about "loud voices" or being inconsiderate and demand she be arrested back!

 

[Cyrus]

I still don't see your guys logic. She was clearly violated. She should go to prison for a long time. In fact, they should not let her back into the US.

 

[Evo]

Well legally she should have gone to jail but sheesh! I would try to find some inane law about "loud voices" or being inconsiderate and demand she be arrested back!

What? Are you guys joking?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I still don't see your guys logic. She was clearly violated. She should go to prison for a long time. In fact, they should not let her back into the US.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Just for touching the womans shoulder! And don't dare Jay Walk Either!

 

[Cyrus]

What? Are you guys joking?

....well, duh! I just had to get you guys, you were askingggggggggg for it. You guys went berserk! ...ahahhaahah...im going to roll off my chair and die.

 

[Pengwuino]

What? Are you guys joking?

I'm saying the woman arrested should tell the cops to arrest the fat texan on some stupid law too!

 

[Moonbear]

I'm saying the woman arrested should tell the cops to arrest the fat texan on some stupid law too!

They did. You may need to reread the article another few more times.