Simple Acoustics Question -- Which neighbor hears the other better?

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The discussion revolves around the acoustics of sound perception between two individuals located in different environments: one indoors in an apartment and the other outdoors in an alleyway. Participants explore which person hears the other better, considering factors such as background noise, sound propagation, and reciprocity in acoustics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that Person 1 hears Person 2 better due to less background noise in the apartment compared to the outdoor environment.
  • Others argue that the principle of reciprocity suggests sound should propagate equally in both directions, assuming all other conditions are identical.
  • One participant mentions that the signal-to-noise ratio is crucial in determining who hears whom better.
  • Another point raised is that external factors, such as other sounds and the volume at which each person speaks, can significantly influence the outcome.
  • Some participants note that special materials or conditions, like an "acoustic diode," could affect sound propagation in non-reciprocal ways.
  • One participant humorously suggests that personal relationships and characteristics, such as age or temperament, might influence who hears the other first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on who hears whom better, with no consensus reached. While some lean towards Person 1 hearing Person 2 better, others emphasize the importance of reciprocity and external factors that complicate the situation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights various assumptions, such as the uniformity of sound volume and pitch, and the influence of background noise, which remain unresolved. The mention of specific acoustic phenomena suggests a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Person 1 is in Apartment 1
Person 2 is in the alley between two blocks of apartments

If both people speak at the same volume, which one hears the other better?
There are two blocks of apartments separated by a narrow alleyway. Person 1 is in the middle of the room in Apartment 1 (first floor if you are in the UK and second floor if you are in the USA!) and Person 2 is on the ground outdoors in the alleyway.

If both people speak at the same volume, pitch and have the same hearing ability, which statement is the most accurate;
a) Person 1 hears Person 2 better.
b) Person 2 hears Person 1 better.
c) Person 1 and Person 2 hear each other equally as well.

If the answer is a) or b), how significant is the difference to which one person hears the other?

What is the simple explanation for the answer?I have almost zero knowledge of acoustics but I am inclined to assume that Person 1 will hear Person 2 slightly better due to the path of the soundwaves, at least I hope this is the case and my neighbours do not hear me as clearly as I hear them when in the alleyway adjacent to my window :smile:
 

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alex282 said:
Person 1 is in Apartment 1
Person 2 is in the alley between two blocks of apartments
If both people speak at the same volume, which one hears the other better?
Person 1 hears Person 2 better. Because person 2 will have more local background noise than will person 1 in a more closed space.
 
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Baluncore said:
Person 1 hears Person 2 better. Because person 2 will have more local background noise than will person 1 in a more closed space.
The principle of reciprocity is a pretty good one in radio communications and it should also apply in acoustics. However, as @Baluncore says, it will be mainly a matter of signal to noise (or interference) ratio at each end.
 
Yes, what they said.

Much depends on what, if any, other sounds are and where they come from. Also how loudly each is speaking and how good their hearing is. If everything is the same (reciprocal), then the sound waves normally should propagate identically regardless of direction.

However, there are special materials, or circumstances, where that isn't true. You can search for "acoustic diode" or similar to learn more.

https://phys.org/news/2013-11-acoustic-diode.html
 
The Rayleigh reciprocity relation, described in his book "Theory of Sound". For radio waves we can use the Rayleigh-Carson reciprocity theorem.
 
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Another confounding influence would be the gender of the participants, and their personal relationship.
 
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There is another answer to this question. It will be the grumpier / older neighbour who is disturbed first. :wink:
 

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