Simple looking but hard to solve nonlinear PDE

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific nonlinear partial differential equation (PDE) given by (\partial f / \partial t)^2 - (\partial f / \partial r)^2 = 1. Participants explore various methods and solutions, including the method of characteristics, and discuss the challenges associated with fully nonlinear PDEs.

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  • One participant presents two analytic solutions to the nonlinear PDE and suggests that the equation appears simple under a change of variables.
  • Another participant mentions the method of characteristics as a general approach for first-order nonlinear equations, noting that initial conditions can help derive solutions.
  • A third participant shares links to resources that may aid in understanding the topic further.
  • Discussion includes the complexity of applying the method of characteristics to fully nonlinear PDEs, with one participant expressing difficulty in solving such cases.

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Participants express differing levels of familiarity with the methods discussed, and while some propose solutions and methods, there is no consensus on a general approach or resolution to the challenges posed by fully nonlinear PDEs.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of fully nonlinear PDEs and the potential need for specific initial conditions to apply certain methods effectively. There are also references to resources that may not cover all aspects of the problem.

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I am solving the following simple looking nonlinear PDE:

(\partial f / \partial t)^2 - (\partial f / \partial r)^2 = 1

Using different tricks and ansatzs I've obtained the following analytic solutions so far:

f(r,t) = a\, t + b\, r + c, \,\,\,\, a^2 - b^2=1.

f(r,t) = \sqrt{(t-r-c)(t+r+d)} .

where a,b,c,d are constants.

Note that if one changes the variables to u = (t+r)/2, v=(t-r)/2 then the PDE looks even more ridiculously simple:

\frac{\partial f }{\partial u } \,\, \frac{ \partial f }{ \partial v}= 1.

The above two solutions were obtained by trying additive and multiplicative separation of the (u,v) variables.

Given the apparent simplicity of the equation is there a general way to approach it and generate more solutions?
 
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Yes, there is a general solution for any first order nonlinear equation. Method of characteristics, usually this methods requires initial condition, but you can supply something general like u(x,0) = f(x). This way you get either a general solution or something that is pretty close. I myself haven't studied the nonlinear case yet, you have to study it up, good luck.

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Thanks for the link. Another good course is

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/18-306Spring2004/LectureNotes/
 
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Method of Characteristics and Nonlinear PDE

The Method of Characteristics is more complex for Fully Nonlinear PDE. This Stanford http://www.stanford.edu/class/math220a/handouts/firstorder.pdf" derives the system of ODEs used to solve them. The two example PDEs are very much like the ones in your question.

I'm able to follow up to the Quasi-linear and Semi-linear cases. Burger's Equation is one of those. I can't yet solve the Fully Nonlinear PDE, with the this method.
 
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