Simple Mechanics Project: How to Secure a Gear Shaft for Load-Bearing Use

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around securing a gear shaft for load-bearing use in a mechanical project. Participants explore various methods for mounting a gear on a shaft while ensuring the shaft remains stable and does not fall through a wooden plate. The conversation includes considerations of mechanical engineering principles and practical applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a construction involving a wooden plate with a hole for a shaft and seeks advice on how to secure the gear shaft to carry load without falling.
  • Another participant notes that the method of mounting the gear depends on whether it has a keyway.
  • A participant suggests that while welding the gear to the shaft is an option, they prefer a non-welding solution and asks for alternatives to prevent the shaft from falling.
  • One reply proposes various methods to hold the shaft vertical, including using collars, pins, or pressing the gear on, while emphasizing the need to determine what works best for the specific application.
  • A participant mentions unstated dimensions and motions, presuming the shaft's diameter and its vertical position, and outlines four main connection methods: welding, keyway, interference fit, and bolted through.
  • Another participant cautions against welding a gear to a shaft due to potential warping and replacement issues, suggesting keys or press fits as more suitable options given the wooden support.
  • One suggestion is to buy a gear with a collar and use a grub screw or a through bolt to secure it, allowing for gear replacement without welding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best method to secure the gear to the shaft, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Various mounting techniques are proposed, indicating multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention unstated dimensions and the need for further clarification on the specific application, which may affect the proposed solutions. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the load-bearing capacity of the wooden support.

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Hi!
Firstly, sorry for bad English, it's not my first language :)
I don't have experience in mechanical engineering so I came here to ask for help. Here is sketch of one simple construction I want to realize:

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Here we have 5 cm thick plate (it would be wooden), 50cm long and 35cm wide. There will be hole drilled in plate for shaft (it will be long 40cm - 50cm) . There would be some gear on shaft and DC motor to rotate shaft. My question is, how can I "fix" gear shaft to carry load without falling down? Here is one shaft I found on google http://cdn3.volusion.com/vyfsn.knvgw/v/vspfiles/photos/am-2392-2.jpg?1420269442
I don't see way how can one use it in this situation. How can one mount gear on this shaft?
 
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Mounting of gear depends on if gear has a key way, right? But what to do to keep shaft from falling down? I know that easiest way would be to weld gear to shaft, but I want some solution which wouldn't involve welding :)
 
Can you provide more information on the method used to hold the shaft vertical? Is the gear at the top of the shaft? You'll likely need a key, but depending on the situation, collars could be used on both sides of the gear, the gear could be pinned, the gear could be pressed on, the gear could be supported by the drive mechanism [such as two plates sandwiching the drive gears] and drive via a key on the shaft. There are plenty of options, but you'll have to figure out what works for your application. HTH
 
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hey etf. to start, there are a few unstated dimensions and motions.
im presuming the shaft is approx10cm in diameter, and the shaft is connected solid to gear. and will be operated in the shaft vertical posisition
there are four main ways to connect shaft to gear, 1 weld. 2 keyway, 3 interference fit, 4 bolted through.

a thrust bearing mounted to the timber and washer mounted to the shaft would prevent the shaft from falling through the hole
 
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It is generally not a good idea to even think of welding a gear to a shaft. This is likely to warp the shaft and/or damage the gear. Also, how would you then replace a worn gear?

Gears are usually mounted with keys, or press fits. Since the support bracket is wooden, that suggests that the loads are not too high so either should work satisfactorily.
 
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Buy the gear one with a collar. Use grub screw or a through bolt with thread tapping in the shaft, to secure the gear from falling. Other than welding, this system will have a replaceable gear.
 
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