Simple special relativity problem

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The problem involves the average lifetime of a pi meson in its own frame of reference and its lifetime as measured by an observer on Earth when moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light. The context is special relativity, focusing on time dilation and distance traveled before decay.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to time dilation and distance, questioning the accuracy of the book's answers and the impact of rounding on their results. Some participants explore the implications of using precise values versus rounded values in their calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's approach. There is a recognition of discrepancies between their results and the book's answers, prompting further exploration of potential errors or misunderstandings.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the precision of constants used in calculations and the implications of rounding on the final answers. Participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the book's values and whether they might contain errors.

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Homework Statement



From: http://www.phas.ubc.ca/~mcmillan/rqpdfs/1_relativity.pdf

The average lifetime of a pi meson in its own frame of reference is 26.0 ns. (This is its proper lifetime.)
If the pi meson moves with speed 0.95c with respect to the Earth, what is its lifetime as measured by an
observer at rest on Earth?

What is the average distance it travels before decaying as measured by an observer at rest on Earth?

Homework Equations



T=26 ns
v=.95c

t^2=T^2 + x^2
x=vt

The Attempt at a Solution



t^2 = T^2 + (vt)^2
t^2(1-v^2) = T^2
t^2(1-.95^2) = 26^2
t*sqrt(1-.95^2)=26
t=26/sqrt(1-.95^2) = 83.267 ns rounded to 83.3 ns Books answer: 83.3 ns

distance: x = vt = 83.3ns * 3*10^8 m/s = 24.99 m rounded to 25.0 Book's answer: 24.0

My answer is about 4% off.

83.267*.3=24.98
83.267*.29979=24.8

I got the median speed, but with halflife the median is mean*ln(2).

83.267*.29979/ln(2)=35.786 rounded to 35.8. Even worse.

Did the book make a typo, or am I missing something important?
 
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The pi meson does not fly with the speed of light.
 
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mfb said:
The pi meson does not fly with the speed of light.

Thank you! Somehow I looked right over that.
 
Reviewing this problem, I got

83.3*10^-9 * .95 * 3.0*10^8 = 23.74 meters

A more precise answer for the time is lower, a more precise number for lightspeed is lower. But the book's answer was 24.0, about 1% higher than my answer and their answer is claimed good to one part in 240 or so.

I don't see where I went wrong this time. It looks simple, but I don't see how to get it right.
 
Don't take the rounded value for the time, use a more precise one. This makes the distance even lower, however. 23.7 meters is the correct answer, rounding it to 24 is fine as well, giving 24.0 is wrong.
 
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Thank you! I wasn't confident that the book had it wrong.
 

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