Simplifying this complicated fraction

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The discussion revolves around simplifying a complex fraction involving variables, specifically focusing on the manipulation of terms with respect to the variable \( y \). Participants are trying to understand how a specific term, \( y^7 \), appears in the denominator of the fraction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are questioning how to derive \( y^7 \) in the denominator, with some expressing confusion over their own calculations leading to \( y^6 \). There are suggestions to multiply terms by \( y \) to simplify the expression, and discussions about rewriting the fraction to facilitate simplification.

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There are multiple interpretations of the steps needed to simplify the fraction. Some participants have offered guidance on methods to manipulate the expression, while others are still seeking clarity on the correct approach. The conversation reflects a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore different methods without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There are indications that some foundational concepts may need revisiting to aid understanding.

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How did they get y^7 in the bottom fraction? I got their answer except I had y^6. Would some please be able to help?

Many thanks!
 
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Callumnc1 said:
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How did they get y^7 in the bottom fraction?
Multiply both the top and bottom by ##y## to help simplify the numerator... :wink:
 
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berkeman said:
Multiply both the top and bottom by ##y## to help simplify the numerator... :wink:
Thank you for your reply @berkeman! I see now :)
 
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Callumnc1 said:
How did they get y^7 in the bottom fraction? I got their answer except I had y^6.
The old saying is "close, but no cigar."

Obviously, you did something wrong. If we look just at the numerator of the fraction in (1), we have:
$$3x^2y^3 - 3x^3y^2(-\frac{x^3}{y^3}) = 3x^2y^3 + \frac{3x^6}y$$

So the fraction in (1) can be rewritten as $$\frac{3x^2y^3 + \frac{3x^6}y}{y^6}$$

What do you need to do to turn this complex fraction into an ordinary fraction; i.e., one that is the quotient of two polynomials?
 
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Mark44 said:
The old saying is "close, but no cigar."

Obviously, you did something wrong. If we look just at the numerator of the fraction in (1), we have:
$$3x^2y^3 - 3x^3y^2(-\frac{x^3}{y^3}) = 3x^2y^3 + \frac{3x^6}y$$

So the fraction in (1) can be rewritten as $$\frac{3x^2y^3 + \frac{3x^6}y}{y^6}$$

What do you need to do to turn this complex fraction into an ordinary fraction; i.e., one that is the quotient of two polynomials?
Thank you for your reply @Mark44!

You multiply the ##3x^2y^3## and ##\frac{3x^6}{y}## by ##y## then flip the ##y^6## up

Many thanks!
 
Callumnc1 said:
You multiply the ##3x^2y^3## and ##\frac{3x^6}{y}## by ##y## then flip the ##y^6## up
That's not a good way to think about it. The next step from where I left off is to multiply the complex fraction by 1, in the form of ##\frac y y##. That will bump the exponent on y in the first term up top and the term in the denominator, and will clear the fraction in the second term up top. You can always multiply by 1 without changing the value of the thing that is being multiplied.

Missing out on concepts like this is why I recommended spending some time going over basic precalculus topics in another thread you posted.
 
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Mark44 said:
That's not a good way to think about it. The next step from where I left off is to multiply the complex fraction by 1, in the form of ##\frac y y##. That will bump the exponent on y in the first term up top and the term in the denominator, and will clear the fraction in the second term up top. You can always multiply by 1 without changing the value of the thing that is being multiplied.

Missing out on concepts like this is why I recommended spending some time going over basic precalculus topics in another thread you posted.
Thank you for your reply @Mark44!

That is a very good method you mention! My teacher taught be that method that I was talking about. Your method makes sense :)
 

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