Simulating Angular Momentum and Torque in Particle Interactions

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This discussion focuses on simulating angular momentum and torque in particle interactions, specifically for protons and electrons, using a simulator that operates at varying time scales. The user seeks to incorporate rotational data by calculating torque at the classical electron radius, considering magnetic interactions between charged particles. Key formulas discussed include the Lorentz force equation, F=q(v × B), where B represents the magnetic field. The conversation emphasizes the need for a model that allows for the simulation of electron behavior akin to magnetic dipoles, despite the classical limitations of electron properties.

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  • Understanding of classical mechanics and electromagnetism
  • Familiarity with the Lorentz force equation
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  • Experience with particle simulation software
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  • #31
darkdave said:
Gravitational forces are NOT electromagnetic.
Nobody said that :confused:

And it's not arbitrary if you want to see the significance of one type of force vs another at various types of time increments.
The definition of those "forces" itself is arbitrary.
There is one electromagnetic interaction. Each particle feels a single, electromagnetic force. You can divide this force into several components, but there are many possible ways to do that. Therefore, if you drop some of those components, this is always arbitrary. It can be reasonable, if those dropped parts are negligible, but it does not have to be.
 
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  • #32
You inferred it.

We were talking about simulating just gravity alone between particles vs electro static attractions.

If you would take your time to follow the line of conversation from start to where we are now you would be less confused.

Dropping components of forces that belong to the Electro magnetic category being arbitrary is in the eye of the beholder. There are reasons to do this that makes sense. Perhaps it's a failure of imagination on your part not to be able to see this. But do we really have to debate this?

mfb said:
Nobody said that :confused:The definition of those "forces" itself is arbitrary.
There is one electromagnetic interaction. Each particle feels a single, electromagnetic force. You can divide this force into several components, but there are many possible ways to do that. Therefore, if you drop some of those components, this is always arbitrary. It can be reasonable, if those dropped parts are negligible, but it does not have to be.
 
  • #33
If you would take your time to follow the line of conversation from start to where we are now you would be less confused.
I don't think so. In addition, I don't think I am confused.

We were talking about simulating just gravity alone between particles vs electro static attractions.
Why did you try to include magnetic components then?

Perhaps it's a failure of imagination on your part not to be able to see this.
If you don't think I can help: Fine. I'll just delete my subscription to this thread and do not visit it again.Edit: That is up to you.
 
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  • #34
Do you still want me to answer your questions since you are deleting your subscription to this thread? I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, i didn't mean to.

mfb said:
I don't think so. In addition, I don't think I am confused.


Why did you try to include magnetic components then?


If you don't think I can help: Fine. I'll just delete my subscription to this thread and do not visit it again.
 

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